worst day yesterday...

I went out for breakfast with the other teachers from school and had oatmeal, not swedish pancakes like everyone else...last time I did that I was really sick at school, so I had oatmeal...good right?? got to school and my partners daughter (she is 11) was helping me move stuff into the other room. I said to her I don't feel good (I have no memory of this at all) and went into the bathroom, the ncame out and sat at the desk to work on paperwork. the next thing I know I am in the hopital and they are telling me I had a seizure. evidently Jess came back into the room and saw me on the floor seizing...she ran and got her mom who call the office who called 911. The paramedics got there and loaded me up and away we went. My partner thinks it is a result of the bypass surgery, my principal says it is because I am not taking good enough care of myself since my mom died... can these realyl be teh cause of a grand mal seizure??? I am still quite a bit dizzy from the seizure medication they are now giving me and burned breakfast to a crosp because I forgot about it and walked into the other room. ugh...I tried looking up WLS + seizures and it is alot of medical stuff and words I don't understand. Do you know anyone who has had seizures because of the WLS??? Do you have any home remedy for literally every muscle in my body hurting, even the muscles in the front of my neck/throat area hurt... ugh... going back to bed now... Nic

nic...i don't have answers..i would find it difficult to believe that wls could cause seizures... i would think it possible that lack of good nutrition and care from your stresses maybe? and are you hydrated enough....it sure is scary to think that you are going thru this-thank God you were not totally alone...please rest and take care of you and know that you contiunue to be in my prayers as well.

ok- you got me thinking and so i looked at seizures on this site and wow--could be related to the wls in a way--many of us are having hypoglycemic issues-low blood sugar--from some of the things we eat or don't eat--so here is an interesting post-i kindof have followed this gal and maybe you could pm her? oh-her nickname is melting mama or something like that...she posts on the main board--didn't realize that i didn't copy and paste her whole post.... Post Date: 2/7/08 10:16 am I'm in your boat. I also have reactive hypoglycemia, and I just starting having grand mal seizures last month. I've had two now, but we cannot decipher if they were directly linked to my hypoglycemia unless it happens again and my blood is tested and low at the SAME time. I'm on my second day of anti-seizure medication, though, so I may never know - unless it doesn't work. I am also on medication to stop the absorption of carbs in the gut, to slow the insulin reactions, and I have a emergency glucagon injection with me at all times for the time I do finally crash too hard. The condition, the more severe RHG is called nesidioblastosis.

Nic! THat is so scary! I sure hope you feel better. Get some rest and relax those muscles! WoW! I had NO Idea that you could have a grand mal seizure from hypoglycemia. I know I've had my own boughts of low blood sugar. Not so much anymore, but once in awhile I still have the dizziness sweats...all that fun stuff. Take care! ((Hugs)) Elizabeth M

wow. first of all let me say that i hope you are feeling better right this very minute and that you continue to improve and heal. i never realized that this is something that could or might happen due to our surgery! of course over 4 years ago i would and did do anything i could to lose the weight. and at this time there is no turning back. I will spend some time doing my own research on this subject too! i have had problems in the past few months more and more with low blood sugar. i was feeling so nasty with it that i went to the doctor. while i was in her office i had one of my attacks where i was light headed not thinking clear at all shakey all that fun stuff. she checked my levels while i was there and they said they were ok. guess it wasn't diabeites. which is good but she told me to get some gloucouse (spelling?) tablets and try those plus i need to go for blood work. among some othr things she wants to check my thryoid. now here is when it gets odd. during that time gas shot up to over 4 bucks a gallon. Since i drive for my living i needed to yet once again tweek my spending to obsorb the outrageous cost to make a living. one of the things i gave up was (SOB) dunkin donuts....oh lord i miss my decaf coffee! that was 3 weeks ago. I always drank decaf (yes i know there is still alittle in there) but i did have extra cream in it and i always used the no sugar sweeteners. i've also been working very hard not always successful but very hard at not eating in between meals. there was a post I think from connie about hunger real or not real can't remember the exact wording. anyways during the past 3 weeks i've felt better than i have in a couple of years. i've not had one single low blood sugar episode. other than the craving of my coffee every time i past a dunkin donuts (do you know how many of those things there are in connecticut?????) i'm doing good. I have no clue if the coffee had anything to do with me not feeling well. marilyn had told me that it is a diarectic and that i should drink more water. In replacement of my decaf i was drinking more water i know that has got to have a positive effect on my health. thinking back when i had my episodes they were similar to dumping in how i felt. is it possible that the extra cream would make me ill combined with the coffee? who knows? i do know i feel better and want to keep it that way. your in my prayers.

pammie i am thinking it was not actually the coffee but the creamer that was in the coffee--especially when you get it from coffee houses- and dunkins fits the category--they use a very high fructose corn syrupy creamer....so it'svery possible it wa sthe creamer....

Ok, Nic, I'm researching - first, it would appear that there is a direct correlation between your type of seizure and WLS. The medical term for what happened to you is Nesidioblastosis, and here's a definition: "Nesidioblastosis is a controversial medical term for hyperinsulinemic hypoglycemia attributed to excessive function of pancreatic beta cells with an abnormal microscopic appearance. The term was coined in the first half of the 20th century. The abnormal histologic aspects of the tissue included the presence of islet cell enlargement, islet cell dysplasia, beta cells budding from ductal epithelium, and islets in apposition to ducts. By the 1970s, nesidioblastosis was primarily used to describe the pancreatic dysfunction associated with persistent congenital hyperinsulinism and in most cases from the 1970s until the 1970s, it was used as a synonym for what is now referred to as congenital hyperinsulinism. Most congenital hyperinsulinism is caused by different mechanisms than excessive proliferation of beta cells in a fetal pattern and the term fell into disfavor after it was recognized in the late 1980s that the characteristic tissue features were sometimes seen in pancreatic tissue from normal infants and even adults, and is not consistently associated with hyperinsulinemic hypoglycemia. However, the term has been resurrected in recent years to describe a form of acquired hyperinsulinism with beta cell hyperplasia found in adults, especially after gastrointestinal surgery." Now I'm going to look more into this last sentence, which is key to what's going on. Will be back. Maureen

you are on the right track...as i mentioned above-melting mamish on the main boards-or grad boards??/-maybe grad boards---- has had these issues and is studying too... i have had some episodes but not to the extent nic has had....ouch...... teh last few days i have had strange headaches and some almost vertigo but haven't told michael cuz he does not need anything else to worry about--he already worries too much about everything and anything.....

Margo I think no I know your right about the coffee creamer at dunkin. it took me months for the lightbulb to go off for that. i had changed alot of things to try and try to lose the extra weight i'd put on. it seemed like no matter what i changed i kept gaining. small amount yes but for us that small amount seems close to the hundred that we/ve lost. when i say i craved the coffee i did. i'd take that first sip and was in coffee high. when i quit it i swear i had withdrawals. my daughter kept saying you can't have withdrawals from decaf but we put it down to how sensitive i am to most anything and figured there is alittle bit of caf in decaf. its just amazing how different i feel without it. i did treat myself and had a medium this weekend with alot less cream then i ever had. it tasted good. right away i tryed to tell myself that i could handle having my 3 cups aday! No i'm not going to go back to my old habit of 3 large decafs with extra cream. not after feeling so good the past 3 weeks.

I feel you about the decaf coffee. I get migranes from too much caffiene and although decaf still has some, I can tolerate it but usually have to take a break every once in awhile. You know...about the dumping feeling...I think it is a strange combo of the dairy and the coffee...because even if I use milk, I still get the strange dumping feelings from time to time. I drink it in the morning, like you I use sweetners. I use splenda. Splenda makes me hungry though. I love it, but it really does make me hungry whenever I use it. I was using lots of cream in my decaf too, but finally I fill it up with milk then just use a little squirt of cream. I'm getting there. I'll probably never break it completely. But maybe one day.