Fat Acceptance Nazi's

Wow - somehow I googled Carnie Wilson's pregnancy and got led down the path of all sorts of angry obese people. I have a strange mix of emotion when reading these things because while I am passionate about how fat people are mistreated, I also feel beaten up by fat people as well. Fat acceptance groups have nothing kind to say about us. We are all misguided, vain, gullible and weak. And as I sit here and read their angry diatribes and want to scream at them to wake up because I WANTED TO LIVE LONGER, I also feel sadness for them. Sadness not in that they are doing important things for fat acceptance or that they are feeling good about who they are - these are wonderful things. But sadness in that they cannot see that some people, perhaps even themselves, have an opportunity to physically feel better and perhaps add years if not decades to their lives. Risk? You betcha. But worth it....so very much worth it to me and others like me. I doubt they would see themselves as being discriminatory or a hate group, but they are. Dina

I agree with the fact that fat people need to be afforded the same respect and courtesy as everyone else. I have always been an advocate for this. I did belong to this organization. Not everyone is the organization is a nutcase. Unfortunately, in every organization you have a fringe group of whacko's who tend to try to thrust their opinions on everyone else. These people make everyone look down on the people who are trying to impact things for positive change. I am sorry they are harrassing Carney and others. It makes us all look like whining idiots.

Crystal, Holy Cow! You look fantastic! I just read your profile and am VERY impressed with your weight loss. Connie

Dina, I'm so glad to see you. I've missed you. I think we've touched on this subject before, but I've often wondered if MO people are truly happy. I know I wasn't, but I told everyone under the sun that I was a very happy person and the only reason I was even considering losing weight was that my knees were killing me. I think the only one I fooled was me. The reason I brought that up is I've seen some militant fat acceptance people on talk shows and they looked like angry fat people to me. No more, no less. I certainly agree with and promote acceptance of everyone - fat, skinny, big heads, little heads, ugly toes - doesn't matter. I just remember that everytime I saw these people on TV, I just thought that they were so angry and that I didn't want to be associated with them. Now if people who had Leukemia took the stance that they have Leukemia, they're proud of it, they want everyone to treat them well and they are not going to try to treat the disease that is killing them, I'd think they were off their rockers. You certainly should not be discriminated against when you have a disease, but I would think that you would want to cure it if possible. Maybe these folks don't recognize obesity as a disease that is killing them. Connie (Who wishes that Dinka Doo would come around a little more often)

Hey, you...every time you surface you brighten my day! When I was at my highest weight and after having tried innumerable ways to try to lose some of it without any success, I tried to convince myself that I "liked" me for who I was; I liked the way I thought, I liked the way I loved, I cared about the person that was me. I had to do that in order to go out into the world every day and function. Delusion. There is no way possible to get away with loving the person--mind, heart, soul--when you hate the entire package. At some point I realized that it was impossible for me to accept my own fat and continue living in that way. That's when I decided to pursue this surgery. It was the greatest, most loving thing I have ever done for myself. By the way, I'm so out of touch, I didn't know Carnie Wilson was pregnant. Take care, Dinka, I've missed you so! Maureen

Hi Dena! It's sad, but so true. But what "they" don't realize is how angry, gullible and weak *they* are. I know I was. I was very angry at myself and the world when I was MO and I let myself be a doormat for just about anyone and everyone because I was too tired to care. As another former MO man (he's 2.5 yrs post-op) frequently posts on a local board I subscribe to says, "How many MO elderly people have you ever seen?" I'm with you -- I want to LIVE!!! And living I am! F'rinstance, I was just talking with a cow-orker about how I feel right now, compared to how I felt last year and the all the years I spent being MO before WLS saved my life. I told her for the first time in I don't know how many years that I actually *feel* like cleaning my house, working in the flower beds, sweeping the porch and the backyard deck. I honestly don't remember when I did all of that because I felt like it, and I've lived in my house for nearly 19 years! So... let the FA people say what they want. As for me, I'm going to keep living and loving my new life!!! Hugs to all! Peace, -Marcie

Hi Dina; It's great to see your smiling face again!! I agree that the Fat Acceptance crowd has valid points about the treatment of the obese. There also seems to be a very aggressive fringe element to this group which oversteps the line into the abusive catagory. I found them to be rather disturbing when I was in the research phase of my WLS journey. The simple fact is that no matter how you sugar-coat your story, Morbid Obesity is a damn unhealthy road to a shortened life. The "F.A. Nazis" can put me down as taking the easy way out if they wish, but I'll compare health indicators with them any day. I just had a complete physical with my PCP last week: MY BP was 102/66; my total cholesterol was 152 with LDL at 72. All of my blood work was excellent; my sleep apnea is a thing of the past; my knees don't ache; I don't live in fear of dying on an operating table; I'm not terrified that I might die because the para-medics couldn't lift my fat ass into the ambulance in an emergency; going to doctors, in general, no longer stresses me to the point of nausea; I could go on like this for hours, but you get the point. Bottom line is: I'm glad that these folks are keeping up their self-esteem level, but they better not try to do it at my expense, because I'll win that debate without breaking a sweat!! Take care and stay well. Mike

i think the real issue is that *I* don't accept my fat. I have an entirely new life than I had 170 pounds ago and I won't apologize to anyone for doing it or how I did it. I'm damned grateful for the surgery!

I can say I was totally miserable when I was fat. Life sucked, I felt like hell, and I was angry at the world. I don't care what the people in that organization say...I don't think anyone wants to be fat. Yes, I did it to be healthier, but I also wanted to look good...I'm not gonna lie about that. They are sad, angry people (for the most part) and I should know because I was there. However, what we did to make our lives better took courage. Not everyone possesses that courage. But, on the other side of the coin, no one should be discriminated against because of the way they look. People are people....fat or thin and everything in between. Joanie PS. missed ya! welcome back....