Question:
why didn't I get sick?

I'm really worried about this, Saturday night I thought I could get away with eating just one bite of a choc-chip cookie. The first bite went so well I took another, the moral of the story is I ate almost every one of them between Saturday night and last night. I didnt' get shaky, sick, no vomiting no nothing. I feel so guilty for what I did. Why did'n I get sick???? HELP!!!!!!!!!!anyone else fall off the wagon like that??? thanks terri    — Terri H. (posted on December 17, 2001)


December 17, 2001
What surgery did you have? How far out are you? How many cookies are you talking about, and did you eat them at once or spread them out? Dumping happens with too much sugar at _one time_. Most people need more than 6 grams to dump (even early on), so one cookie won't do it for most people, esp. if you ate real food with/before it. If you ate one cookie an hour over 24 hours, you would be unlikely to dump, but still be able to consume lots of empty calories. However, with all that fat, you may get the runs today! I have sugar issues sometimes, when I feel it coming on, I eat a meal, a regular meal, even if it is a weird time. It makes me full and not interested in cookies. ALso, it takes time to prepare, as opposed to the instant gratification of cookies. You had surgery, it is up to you to make it work! Best wishes...
   — M. A. B.

December 17, 2001
Terri--I too fell off the wagon. We had a party at work while putting up our Christmas tree. It was about 2 1/2 hours. In that time I ate 15 small Keebler sugar cookies. No dumping. But I felt so guilty, I don't think I'll ever do it again. Plus....I just weighed myself and I still lost weight! So no lasting harm from this one little fall. I think we all get second chances. Best of luck.
   — Tracy L.

December 17, 2001
My profile talks of this, I dont dump either and thats both a blessing and a curse. YOU will need to be careful about your food choices. I eat a cookie now and then and take a anything in moderation approach. Denying all of anything led me to binge eating in the past. Better to eat a small amount of bad choices now and then..... Binging would be worse.
   — bob-haller

December 17, 2001
It appears that you aren't prone to the dumping syndrome. I only dump when I eat a lot of a high sugar/high fat food. People like us have to be extra vigilant. That means no cookies, cakes, pies etc in the house! I tell my teenage daughters that if they must have these foods, then keep them out of my kitchen! They have cannisters in their room. I also learned that I can't have just "a taste" of a sugar laden food. One bite and I'm gone! If you are going to maximize your weight loss in year 1 (I didn't), you have to stay away from sugars and the best way to to that is to keep them out of your house.
   — [Anonymous]

December 17, 2001
Well, all the below posters are correct.. Dumping is a toss up "Blessing or a Curse". I choose to think it was a blessing.. (to keep me inline) ... Fortunately or unfortunately depending how you look at it.. some people never dump, those that don't are generally RNY very proximal say 4 foot bypassed or less.. although this is not the rule by any means.. Some that have never dumped all of the sudden 4-6 months down the post-op road they find out they CAN dump the hard way :) usually after eating sugar on an empty stomach or with fried/breaded foods.. It just proves we're all individuals and there is no set rule on how much weight you will loose, will you dump or not.. or how fast or slow you loose etc.. You will just have to be very careful and just stay away from those things that temp you like the cookies.. Don't even bring them into the house.. Buy fresh fruit instead..
   — Victoria B.

December 17, 2001
I, too, just fell off of the wagon... last night!! When I got the ice cream out of the freezer for the hubby, it was screaming my name... Kerry! Kerry! LOL I gave in, had at least 1/2 a cup and didnt get sick. But, then, later on, ingested a bunch of Bugels chips. I majorly fell off the wagon!! But, the truth is.... we need to indulge our cravings once in a while. The fact remains, we cant sit down and eat a dozen chocolate chip cookies like we used to, maybe one or two, at the most. Dont feel so guilty, we all go through this. Just get back on and do what you can. Nobody will criticize you for eating something you crave, once in a great while. Good luck and God bless!! : )
   — Kerry P.

December 17, 2001
Just last monday while waiting all day for jens surgery I spent the day eating bad stuff from vending machines:( I dids make sure my surgeon didnt come to tell me how surgery went and find me eating M&Ms. I am STILL a stress eater:( But one day is just that and I hope to avoid such situations in the future. On the bright side Pre Op I would og eaten 10 times the amount of junk I did as a post op. We had surgery but are still just human.
   — bob-haller

December 17, 2001
Sugar really scares me. I really try to avoid it. I found all kinds of sugarless chocolates and this weekend I baked splenda biscotti and Italian wedding cookies. No one in my family knew they were sugarless. And I would never tell , my husband won't tolerate anything artificial. He had no clue. When I need something sweet these are the things I turn to they don't intensify the sugar cravings for me.I know how I used to be with sweets and I am not going there again. Good luck.
   — Rose A.

December 18, 2001
I am where you are right now. I dumped early on, but now I don't. I wish I did. I am a sugar junkie. Nothing like before, but I have been baking X-Mas cookies and trying each one. I feel really guilty, but what I try to do is eat some real food while I am baking so I don't crave as much. It really does help. Before the surgery, I would eat almost all of the cookies at one sitting. Now I have maybe three of four a day. Just try to eat real food instead. It does work. Good luck and have a Merry Christmas.
   — Dawn H.

December 18, 2001
Hi, I have been baking Christmas cookies and yes I have fallen off the wagon, just one too many times. So now I've decided that I cant stand the temptation and I am oficially through with baking. The first night I was baking I ate two teaspoons of the dough, and within 20 minutes I was feeling like crap. I hadn't eaten so I think it went right through me and I dumped big time. But this last weekend, I had eaten something and then about a half hour later I ate a cookie and was fine. So it may be that you had eaten something prior. But the best bet is to keep the stuff out of the house. With kids it's hard. I have my husband take the kids to McDonalds, or a park every few days and let them eat their junk their. It makes it soo much easier for me.
   — [Anonymous]

August 2, 2002
Terri, my surgeon's nutritionist has been lecturing me about this from Day One after the surgery. Basically, she says that not only should I not get too stressed about occasional treats, but I should actually build them into my food plan. Yes, you heard it here first -- she actually *wants* me to have sweets or other treats occasionally. Keyword here being "occasionally". You can't live on cookies, or marshmallows, or chips, or any other high-cal, low-nutrition food. But if you deny yourself constantly, you're going to find that the urge to "cheat" builds and builds, until it's irresistible. Think of it like a spring that you are compressing, each time you deny yourself something you want. The spring gets tighter and tighter and tighter, and eventually -- SPROING! -- it lets go, and you go hog wild. Not worth it. Last night I ate a butter tart with raisins -- one only -- and I'm not particularly worried about it. I won't be eating anything gooey or fatty today or for the next couple of days, but that's okay with me. I really savoured that one butter tart, and it got me past the munchies. You're not on a permanent deprivation program -- you're learning to eat like a "normal" person. And normal people eat cookies once in a while.
   — Karen I.




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