Question:
Does anyone else feel depressed about how little they are supposed to eat?

I am 11 weeks and a bit post open RNY and find myself depressed about what I am allowed to eat....which is protein, protein, protein. First the first time I have been experimenting with crackers and more veggies and some low-fat popcorn. WEll...BIG MISTAKE! I have gained weight even though my overall calorie intake was below 1000 calories. I usually try never to go beyond 600 or 800 calories when I am doing all protein, mind you. I feel upset because I push myself so hard when exercising almost daily. I really really push myself to the limit of endurance. Frankly I just want to lay down and die sometimes. I get so weak and exhausted...so I dumbly thought...maybe add a few carbs... I feel like I am the only idiot who feels this way...everyone seems to feel so good by 11 weeks out... I am grateful I have lost 64 pounds...but I just wish it was not such a strict diet...    — chealsea L. (posted on October 24, 2002)


October 24, 2002
I actually am just the other way around, I am always told I am not eating enough, I feel real crappy if I eat more then say 400 calories a day, I will probably get reamed for that, but I feel so much better if I don't feel stuffed, if I ate 800 to 1000 calories a day I would be miserable,I do eat mostly protein, and fresh veggies, soups and broth, I love hot beef or chicken broth on a cold day,, warms me right up!!:) post-op 02-27-02 -144 pounds and almost 100 inches, starting weight was 270 pounds and current weight is 126/127 pounds...
   — bikerchic

October 24, 2002
In my opinion....I think you are being way to hard on yourself. Just live a normal life, exercise, eat your protein first and a few carbs are not going to hurt you. I am so happy with this new tool I have. I eat anyting I want within reason. I eat protein first and enjoy a few carbs. I never eat sugar or drink carbonated drinks. Don't forget you water!!! D. Rutherford 7/5/2002 Open RNY start weight 253, weight now 192.
   — DRutherford

October 24, 2002
Hi, I am 10 weeks today and down 48lbs. I eat almost all protein and a little carbs. I generally eat between 500-800 calories a day and 60-90g of protein, yesterday I got 100g of protein in. I feel sluggish when I eat cheese b/c of all the added fat. I met with my nutrionist last week and she said my diet was great, I just needed to cut out the cheese & my daily protein bar (snack). I walk alot and work down on wall street and have so much energy. I am also 32 if that matters. Good Luck to you. Oh, I eat almost all red meat & chicken if that makes a difference. Plus, alot of seafood.
   — heathercross

October 24, 2002
Oh come on now- 1. Do you weigh yourself too much? Are you obsessing over the numbers? Try weighing ONCE a month. Or only at Doctors visits. Weight fluctuates SO much, even in 1 day, and no one's scale is "absolutely correct" The carbs may have helped you retain water, not FAT!! I hate to see what happens when you hit a plateau! These thing sare not "YOUR" fault, your body has a mind of it's own and 2. The "food being a priority" will change. Sure it's restrictive now, same as a newborn. I think at 11 weeks, you could taste it now- soon you'll find you do not "need" to have it in your life regardless. All carbs are not evil, especially COMPLEX carbs. 3. Take a break, man. You seem to be pushing yourself into depression, and this is not the meaning behind the surgery. 4. Go get your labs drawn. Depression is a well know stage after this surgery- you are losing large amounts of fat, fat which stores hormones, and hormones make you crazy. Just pat yourself on the back for all your hard work and take a break.
   — Karen R.

October 24, 2002
I seriously doubt that eating carbs caused you to gain weight. The carbs you chose (crackers and popcorn) might have been higher in salt and caused you to retain some water. I agree with the previous poster, the chances that you gained fat are almost non-existant. Your body needs complex carbs to do its job. If you want crackers, try some whole wheat. They will also give you fiber, as does the popcorn. Also, 600-800 calories is pretty good at your stage but if you are exercising extremely hard, it may not be enough. You may either have to cut back the exercise or add a few calories every day. I have eaten carbs, both complex and simple, since I was cleared for soft foods in moderation every single day. It hasn't hurt my loss at all. Try not to be so hard on yourself and remember everything in moderation, even exercise. And getting your labs done might be a good idea since you are so tired. It can't hurt and it will give you a better idea of where you stand. Good luck.
   — Tina P.

October 24, 2002
My thought when I hit the 4 month mark was how LIBERATED from food I felt. I am covered with the nutritional basics supplementally, so I could eat freely (minus the milk & sugar I avoid). I love veggies, and them make them the center of my meal without guilt! (My protein is chocolate) and carbs did not call to me for quite awhile. I had a token portion of potatoe or rice only. It was so eASY. I just cook normal meals for the family and pluck off only what I like (again, minus milk & sugar). I can eat again in 2 hours if I must, so I don't have to fight the portion thing as hard. I am still finding it liberating 8 yrs later.
   — vitalady

October 24, 2002
Ask yourself some questions: 1) Why did you have the surgery in the first place? Was it to improve your health or appearance? (2) If it was to improve your health, is your health better or worse than it was 3 months ago? (3) Do you do self-defeating behaviors like weigh every day? Try weighing only when you to go the doctor's office. (4) Have you visited a nutritionist and asked for help in preparing menus that were appealing, tasty and within your surgeon's guidelines? (5) Are you beating yourself up a lot? Dieting will always cause our weight to fluctuate and we can't expect the scale will always be on a downward spiral. Women retain water. Weight fluctuates. (6) Have you considered a personal trainer? Even for a couple fo sessions to design a program for you might help. Not all the exercise we do is always beneficial in the ways we might expect. (7) If you're weak and exhausted, have you spoken to your surgeon about this? Something could be out of kilter in your body and your vitamins might need adjustment.<br><br> I'm 10 weeks out today and I'm finding food is just something that lets me live. I don't (and cannot) live to eat any more. I'm feeling better than I have in years after this little time. I last went to the doc on October 2 and I'd lost 51.5 pounds at that time. I have no idea how much since. Count your positives and make your negatives into positives. You've a lot to be thankful for.
   — Cathy S.

October 24, 2002
Believe it or not, you may not be getting in enough calories to continue the weight loss. With the heavy exercise you are doing, you are burning calories and the body may just be saying" Alright, not enough calories, we are going to hoard the fat now to survive". Try mixing up your diet. Also, do you have to just eat protein? Some doctors say so, but most of us eat balanced meals which means protein first, then some veggies and some complex carbs. Popcorn and crackers are fine and will not effect your weight unless you are eating them round the clock. All of us,especially those of us that have the terrible habit of weighing daily, have seen the scale go up a few pounds from time to time. A week later it will be gone along with a few more, especially at your early stage. If you can't handle seeing something like that on your scale from time to time without getting depressed, then don't weigh daily.
   — Cindy R.

October 24, 2002
I noticed that 2 things were not addressed: (1) When you exercise hard, you build muscle and as many people know, muscle weighs more than fat, so you could have gained muscle weight and (2) Could you be retaining water weight due to being near "that time of the month"? I always do and it's always temporary. Also, try to relax a bit and don't be so hard on yourself. I know most people want to make the most of their "window of opportunity" but don't let it make you crazy and lose sight of how well you are doing. :o)
   — Jennifer A.

October 24, 2002
I really mourned the loss of my love, my best friend, my comforter and my stabilizer...food.... when I was an early postop. At 11 weeks postop, your body is still in shock from such a huge change in eating, volume and calories. I am not suprised that you feel weak. The question I have is about Vitamin B-12, are you getting this very critical energy vitamin? It has to be under the tongue or a shot, because we posties can't absorb it in pill form. That might help your exhaustion. The early postop diet is a bit hard to take, but experiment with flavors and good tasting protien supplements. I was able to eat a little different things at about 3 months, and today enjoy a wonderful variety of foods. It will get better, the early part is very tough, but you will get through it! Good Luck to you.
   — Cara F.




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