Question:
Is it ok to take my multi vitamin and Citracal together?

Every morning I take my multi-vitamin, Citracal, and 1/2 tab of glucovance (type 2 diabetes) with a cup of decaf tea. In the evening I take my 2nd Citracal and 1/2 tablet of glucovance, usually with a protein shake. Is this ok? Or should I be taking these supplements individually at different times of the day? Kim    — Kim F. (posted on February 23, 2001)

February 23, 2001
My surgeon's nurse says that calcium and iron should not be taken at the same time. Iron absorbs best on an empty stomach, in an acidic environment. I have heard that taking it with a few ounces of citrus juice is good. Calcium needs vitamin D (choose a formulation that includes vitamin D) to enhance absorption, and is best taken after a meal. I usually take my first calcium after breakfast, then my iron at midmorning, and my other two calcium doses after lunch and dinner.
   — mmagruder

February 23, 2001
Yes, they're OK together. It's iron that is the trouble maker, as Melanie said. Calcium prefers a full tummy, and is very happy to be taken at night. Citracal makes several versions, so check to be sure how many pills = how many mg. Most likely, 2 pills = 630mg. So, you'd need to take 2, 2 and 1 to reach a 1500 min. Only 500mg is absorbable at one time, give or take a mg.
   — vitalady

February 24, 2001
Hello, everyone - it's the great Calcium-Iron debate! LOL Actually, it is true that iron and calcium cannot traditionally be mixed. But Citracal is a form of iron that does not react/bond with iron and CAN be taken together with it. ALL other forms of calcium cannot and must be taken separately. This information is from our surgeon's nutritionist, Niccole Siegel, after much research and communication with Citracal's representatives... all the best,
   — Teresa N.

February 24, 2001
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   — Lynn E.

February 26, 2001
But the research done by and claims made by the makers of Citracal are under scrutiny and their claims banned the Better Business Bureau. Citracal may be 20% more absorbable than the carbonate but it costs almost twice as much. Do the math. Citracal -may- be better in low acid stomachs but the downside of that is that it causes the runs. Do a search on metacrawler.com. Sellers of c.citrate say it's better, but the scientific/medical opinions equivocate on the issue. Check out: http://www.ahealthyme.com/article/remedy/100144250
   — [Anonymous]