Question:
DUMPED....again
I am really frustrated because i don't know what made me dump again. i had rny on 1/31. early last week I mildly dumped...didn't do anything different but still dumped. Yesterday I dumped to the point i thought I'd pass out. it is not pleasant people...worst feeling i have ever felt. anyway, my question is.....will dumping be life long for me now? I am so scared to eat again and I've reverted back to protein shakes mixed with water and am totally leaving milk alone now.... — hatda (posted on February 18, 2008)
February 18, 2008
Dumping is life long if you rush, eat things that you know you cannot
handle. Once you learn what those things are, you cut back on it until you
learn what you can tolerate. Keep your carbs complex and you should be
fine.
I found out I had become lactose intolerant after surgery...It could be
that you have too. I can eat cheese in any form but no milk. Try soy and
stay away from sugar! It was a good idea to go to liquid til you feel
better...Try to stretch your meal for 20-30 minutes...You might be eating
too fast...Hope you are doing better!
— .Anita R.
February 18, 2008
AH DUMPING YA JUST NEVER NO.ONE TIME YOU WILL BEABLE TO EAT SOMETHING NEXT
TIME YOU DUMP!!I'M 6 MO OUT & IT HAPPENS NOW & THEN.I CAN'T DO MILK
AT ALL!!!OR CERTIAN FATS.NO MAYO NOT EVEN LITE.CAN'T STAND THE SMELL OF
FAST FOOD RESTAURTS LIKE MC DONALDS BURGER KING.THIS IS WHA I DID TACO
BELL,TOASTOD WITH REFINED BEANS,NO LETTUCE BRING HOME USE DOLP OF FAT FREE
SOUR CREAM.ALITTLE OF YOUR FAVORITE SALSA.I NEVER LIKE MEXICAN FOOD THAT
MUCH BUT NOW IT'S ONLY WHAT STAYS DOWN MOST OF THE TIME.GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR
WLS. LEHIGH
— lehigh
February 18, 2008
SURPRISE! I dump with anything that has milk in it. Even mashed potatoes
at a restaurant. You should keep a journal of all your intake. This will
help to identify the culprit. Then, just stay far, far away from it. Your
body goes through changes and adjustments. Something that may make you
dump today, 1yr post-op, you might be able to eat. And visa versa. Good
Luck, and may the journal queen win!!!
— bariatricdivalatina
February 18, 2008
Calm down, you are only 6 weeks in - I wasn't allowed to eat anything that
I had to chew for that time - try keeping a log of what you eat then how
you feel, eat only 1 or 2 tablespoons full at a time, and give your body a
chance to heal.
I'll tell you this, you are smack in the middle of where I was going crazy,
now 5 month's later, it's GREAT!
— 29Diesel
February 18, 2008
Yes dumping is life long.You have to be careful what you eat and drink and
I am sorry to say milk has sugar in it. LAst night I ate a ham egg and
cheese on an english muffin which I can eat every day but I also added a
1/2 glass of orange juice with it and i felt like crap for 35 minutes.
Watch your carbs, your sugar and dont forget that crabs turn into sugar.
— Joanc
February 18, 2008
Even though I am sure that dumping is not a pleasant experience, count your
blessings that you do dump!! I had RNY 10/10/06 and I don't dump. I can
eat practically anything and I've only lost 88 lbs. I wish I did dump so
that I could have more control over what I eat.
— cpinck
February 18, 2008
Try one new food per day, to help eliminate the problematic food. If you
try multiple new foods in one day and dump, you won't know which one caused
the problem. Some people react to sugar, other to greasy food, and others
react to other foods. So try one food today, and if you have the dumping
feeling, eliminate that food. Try a new food tomorrow--and do this until
you have as wide a selectin of foods that will not bother you. This way,
you can choose a food at a restuarant that hasn't caused dumping. Some
seasonings may cause problems too, and you can't tell for sure what
seasoning may be in restuarant dishes--so there is still a minor chance
there. But narrow down the foods that cause your dumping sensation--one
food at at time. DAVE
— Dave Chambers
February 18, 2008
Anything that has milk and or sugar certain fats make me dump,Im thankful
it keeps me straight,Im 3yrs out and I dont do fast food at all,Im 56
-5ft1-123lbs from 246lbs.Im NEVER NEVER going back so yes I follow the
rules.Good luck and god bless .
— SWEETPEA52
February 19, 2008
I do not agree with those who say one should "stretch" her/his
time for eating a meal out to 20-30 minutes or more. You should try to eat
your meals (measured out to be about the volume of your fist) in about 5-15
minutes -- THE FASTER THE BETTER! Prior to eating you should do "water
loading" to help give you that "I'm full" feeling when you
consume a meal. This is all explained at many places on the WWW and
elsewhere -- books written by MDs, etc. Here is a site that I just found by
doing a Google search on "water loading roux":
<http://www.thinnerself.com/files/pouch.htm>. Taking 30 minutes to
eat a meal can leave you with a "I'm still hungry" feeling,
making you want to consume more than that "fist" sized meal. More
food --> more calories --> weight reduction lessens or stops -->
stress --> eat more --> gain weight --> WRONGLY put the blame on a
failed bariatric surgery or even your surgeon. ** The potential to
encounter the dumping syndrome will be with you for life. This is a GOOD
thing because, being such a "bad" thing, it gives you motivation
to do what is necessary to avoid dumping by sticking to proper eating
habits which, for most RNYers, will result in successful weight loss.
"What is necessary" varies with each individual. You will have
discover for yourself, through trial and error, what that means for you. **
If you had RNY surgery on 1/31 and are encountering the dumping syndrome
with regularity, I would suggest that you are already on the wrong track
with your eating. I did not start experiencing the dumping until after I
started eating "regular" food. You should not be at that stage
yet, eating nothing but pureed food (baby food) that you buy at the market
or prepare yourself. Make sure that you consume a MINIMUM of 50 grams of
protein per day via a combination of protein drinks and pureed foods.
**GOOD LUCK**
— [Deactivated Member]
February 19, 2008
Be very careful of things that are "sugar free". A lot of these
things have sugar alchohol in them. If I even have 1 gram of sugar
alchohol I dump.
— KristineMarie
February 19, 2008
Try Soy Milk with your shakes. Make sure that you are not eating anything
with fat or oil and chck for sugar. Sugar in Fruit is OK, but any refinded
sugar will make you dump.
— William (Bill) wmil
February 19, 2008
I agree with another poster -- keep a journal of what you eat and that
could help be a clue as to what may have caused you to dump. No dumping
will not be life long for you. My partner had it over 4 years ago and she
doesn't dump -- she eats anything she wants -- including chittlins -- yuck!
You are barely 3 weeks out so you are still in chew, chew, chew training.
When you get the habit of chewing for a long time prior to swallowing --
you'll be okay -- it just takes time. We didn't learn these bad habits
prior to surgery overnight and we're not going to "unlearn" them
over night either. I drink Silk Soy milk -- not everyday -- but I might
grab 8 ounces in the morning with the vitamins.
— the7thdean
February 19, 2008
It depends on what yr eating...your less than a month out....well close but
not quite. You shouldn't be EATING any food, in a sense...I mean like
regular food. You should be eating mush, liquids, applesauce consistancy
etc...Good luck, God bless and welcome to the losing side...it does get
better!
— crystalsno
February 19, 2008
DawnMarcia Wilson said "I do not agree with those who say one should
"stretch" her/his time for eating a meal out to 20-30 minutes or
more. You should try to eat your meals (measured out to be about the volume
of your fist) in about 5-15 minutes -- THE FASTER THE BETTER!"
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Being a new eater, you certainly should not rush eating. In the beginning
you will probably not even get hunger pangs to even notice if you are
hungry (I didn't for two years.) Eating the amount of the size of your fist
and rushing it as fast as you can is asking for inevitable dumping,and or
stretching of your pouch and stoma. Please be careful if you decide to take
the advice of this poster! Later, after you have healed and can handle
more food then I wholeheartedly agree to try to eat within 15 minutes so
you feel "satisfied" faster...NOT FULL...
Good luck
— .Anita R.
February 20, 2008
In response to Anita R's response to my previous response, I DID say that
it is now much too soon to be eating solid/regular food and that pureed
food is currently what is appropriate. I forgot to mention that, when
eating FAST, it should not be so fast that you do not chew your food well.
Improperly chewed food can be a cause of the dumping syndrome too. My
comments about water preloading and eating fast are just as appropriate for
pureed food as for regular food. Pureed food, of course, does not have to
be chewed. You would have to eat much more pureed food than just a fistful
at one sitting to stretch your new, smaller stomach or rupture the staples
placed there by the surgeon. I am not so brash, though, to say, "Do
not listen to Anita!"; From MY experience (and success) with
post-surgery eating and resultant weight loss, I related my thoughts to
you. Read ALL of the responses (sometimes at variance with one another) to
your OH query, listen to your professional medical people; then make your
decision about what you think is best for HAY DAY.
— [Deactivated Member]
February 21, 2008
You are about 3 weeks and you are drinking milk? WOW!!! you have to be on
shakes for 4 weeks and you are eating omelet. UUMM so good but you get a
price for your UUMM. After 4 weeks of shakes. They are 2 to 4 weeks of
liquids. Then pure stage and then litle by litle you start introducing
food.
— reborning
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