Question:
P.O. 2 1/2 weeks gastric bypass. I just ate Wendys chili 12oz. HELP
I am having a hard time only eating the 4oz that the doctor told me. I am never satified. Yesterday I wrote everything done, I had one egg with chesse for breakfast, 8oz protein shake mid morning, 4oz tuna with light mayo for lunch,light yoguart for mid afternoon, 1/4 cottage chesse 1hour after the yoguart, 4oz chicken & 2oz green beans for dinner. I had 48+oz of water. And I am not full. Today I had the same breakfast and for lunch i had the chili-for the first time I feel full. How could I be eating this much? Can my pouch be bigger then others? And I am not losing much either. Had surgery on Feb 28th down 22lbs. as of March 11th. nothing lost since. — pete (posted on March 17, 2006)
March 17, 2006
Peter, did your doctor tell you what size of pouch was created for you? I
would imagine it would be 4oz since that is what you were instructed to
eat. Keep in mind that soft foods or liquids will squeeze out thru the
stoma into your intestines allowing you to eat more. Are you supposed to
be eating things like chili, chicken and tuna this early out? I know I was
still on full liquids or pureed foods at 2.5 weeks out. Do not drink when
eating, solid foods will stay in your pouch longer allowing you to feel
full longer. I too was given a 4oz pouch, it's larger than most, but still
effective....if you play by the rules. Good luck, don't stress, and ALWAYS
talk to your surgeon about your concerns.
— RebeccaP
March 17, 2006
how long to eat 12 oz chili? shouldnt be more than 20 minutes.
— bob-haller
March 17, 2006
Its very hard to give you a definitive answer, because there are a many
surgeons and Nuts as there are eating protocols. I am amazed though, at so
early out you are able to eat these things, but if you are following your
surgeons protocol to the letter, then that a good thing. I was on full
lilquids 3weeks post op, pureed foods the next 3 weeks, and soft foods the
following 3 weeks, then onto more regular foods after that. i have never
heard, ever, a surgeon or Nut advise their patients to eat until fulll,
because most post ops never feel full, but we are advised to eat until
satisfied only. During my first weeks post, up until 6 months post op,
everything was measured out at 1/4 cup or 2 ounces. From 6 months on, I am
only allowed half a cup of food each meal, only 3 times a day. I dont
think I have ever eaten 12oz of food, except for protein drinks. Like I
mentioned, if you are following your protocol and not adding what you want
to it, rather what is there, then you are doing ok,. Good Luck Cindi
-219#
— DollyDoodles
March 17, 2006
http://www.aspiruslibrary.org/patient_ed/pdf/cns/pe-cns-022.pdf
Here is a good web address that i have gotten alot of information on
different phases of dieting after the bypass surgery. Although i am pre-op
and still getting ready for my surgery 4/5. I found this site to be helpful
as far as amounts per different phases of eating after the surgery as well
as types of food that are good for us as far as proteins.
Good Luck~and don't give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
— tiffany E.
March 17, 2006
Hi Peter,
I think you better at utmost speed talk to your dietican. You are having a
serious problem. Your pouch is the size of a large egg. you need to start
drinking more also.
— Steve Cohen
March 17, 2006
Although everyone is different, you really need to speak to your health
care provider about your diet and not feeling satisfied, full is not
necessarily the goal. It is also important for you to contact & talk
with your support group friends. Keeping focused really helps. You did not
go through what you went through for nothing. I don't know about others but
I still have days that I can eat more and days that I eat less. It just
depends. In any case, take care and allowing the healing process to take
effect.
— KenyaE
March 17, 2006
Peter are you drinking with your meals and how long are you eating per
meal? By drinking with meals and say eating for a hour, you can eat a lot
more.. please tell us more!
— bob-haller
March 17, 2006
I emailed some encouragement but would also like to reinforce what you may
have already been told. Drinking too close to meals and soon after
"washes" your solids through too quickly. Try to refrain from
drinking anything 1/2 hr before or after meals and see if that doesn't help
you feel satisfied longer. I was also instructed by the dietician to focus
on dairy and protein and eliminate veggies for the 1st 6mos. I'm surprised
you can tolerate such 'heavy' foods this soon post op!!
— jcrefasi
March 17, 2006
how much weight did you THINK you'd loose; considering your start point 22
pounds is way within normal limits. As far as your 'eating' it might not
be nothing and be normal - if you had the RNY it could be a problem - it
certainly was in my case and is aways possible for anyone having surgery.
I would check to see what size your surgeon did you' and if its was like
your peers - then I would discuss with him the volume you are eating since
it could be you have a failed stoma. If thats the case; you need to start
limiting what you eat regardless of how you feel (full or not) in order to
continue the weight loss portion of your journey.
— star .
March 18, 2006
Hi there --- I am amazed that you can (or even want to) eat solid foods,
especially chili at almost 3 weeks post-op. I couldn't even get through a
couple of ounces of clear liquids or pureed foods for quite some time. To
this day, I cannot eat more than 4-6 oz at a time and I am 3 years post-op
(3/3/03) and have lost 135#. As a patient and being an RN, I don't honestly
believe any Doctor or Nutritionist would approve of any solid foods at this
stage due to the healing that is of UTMOST umportance to make this surgery
to be as successful as we all need and want. We all went through alot to
get here and it is SO very worth it. PLease rethink your dietary
allowances and of course, please consult your MD an/or your Nutritionist
for assistance. I know we as your peers are here for support and
"mild" guidance, but for your actual post-op concerns--SEE YOUR
MD !!!! Take it slow, easy, and patiently-- IT IS WORTH IT !!!!!! Kera
(250-->115)
— Kewpidoll
March 18, 2006
Hi there --- I am amazed that you can (or even want to) eat solid foods,
especially chili at almost 3 weeks post-op. I couldn't even get through a
couple of ounces of clear liquids or pureed foods for quite some time. To
this day, I cannot eat more than 4-6 oz at a time and I am 3 years post-op
(3/3/03) and have lost 135#. As a patient and being an RN, I don't honestly
believe any Doctor or Nutritionist would approve of any solid foods at this
stage due to the healing that is of UTMOST umportance to make this surgery
to be as successful as we all need and want. We all went through alot to
get here and it is SO very worth it. PLease rethink your dietary
allowances and of course, please consult your MD an/or your Nutritionist
for assistance. I know we as your peers are here for support and
"mild" guidance, but for your actual post-op concerns--SEE YOUR
MD !!!! Take it slow, easy, and patiently-- IT IS WORTH IT !!!!!! Kera
(250-->115)
— Kewpidoll
March 18, 2006
Well I was able to eat wendys chili by 3 weeks, yummy and doc recommended.
But only a few bites. Of course if you graze you can eat much more over a
period of hours:(
— bob-haller
March 18, 2006
I too am AMAZED you can eat that much so soon. I know my pouch is approx
1-2 ounces. I had to cut my pureed portions to 1/4 cup or suffer from
extreme feelings of bloating and fullness. I also agree you should call
your doc and/or dietician ASAP-- it is possible some of your stitches
opened up and food is going down into your lower stomach. Good luck.
— ValerieZ
March 21, 2006
OK the problem is your head is telling you that you are hungry you have
lost your best friend (food). You need to measure your food and don't eat
anymore then what you measured. At 2 weeks post op I was eating 1/4 of a
self serve cottage cheese per meal. My daughter who also had the GB told me
mom you are not hungry you just think you are and I thought she was nuts
but now i look back almost a yr. out and she was completley right. Good
luck and if you would like to talk more please write me....
— NYCindy
March 21, 2006
Peter, I was removed from any special diet at 1 wk post-op. I never had
the strict liquid, puree, etc phases that many others do. Every Dr is
different so please don't let it concern you that so many are 'shocked'
that you can eat that so soon. My first 'meal' was one week post-op and it
was 1/4 of a chicken salad sandwich on toast. Also, I think that 22 lbs in
11 days is fabulous. I lost 28 lbs in my first month so you seem right on
track to me. If you are concerned about your lack of fullness, speak with
your Dr. As a new pre-op, I didn't truly understand "full" until
I overate and got sick. It is something that is hard to get used to. Head
hunger is an evil thing to overcome. Best of luck.
— Michelle_S
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