Question:
reply about protien
to everyone who answered my question, I just talked to my nutrisionist and she said they don't hyave us drinking the protien shakes because people throw up their protien and when we eat our meal 3 times a day at least half of it is protien . They want the pouch to get used to the consistincy of food not a drink. And it is better if your pouch get used to solid food right away, you don't vomit as much and you don't have as many problems. And if at the first nut visit you fell week ,tired then they will give you a protien supplement. My doc and nut they work together, have been doing it this way for 10yrs and have not had any problems with this way of doing thing. So maybe you who have just had rny maybe you had better ask your nut & doc about this., it is better than getting sick. — hlt1960 (posted on October 17, 2008)
October 17, 2008
I hate to say this but I really feel for you. I read your other question
and the responses as well now this one. Besides the protein, you need
fluids!!! You will become dehydrated very quickly if you do not get in your
liquids whether it is water, protein drinks or even crystal light, etc. I
cant imagine your doc and nut. pushing food like that when you can become
dehydrated so quickly with this surgery. I have never heard such a thing
that liquids will make a person sick after this surgery. You need liquid!!
Plain and simple. And the protein is so important for so many things to do
with your health. Protein is number one priority right next to fluids with
this surgery. And just eating high protein foods, you do not ingest all
the protein from those foods because of the way the food now breaks down in
such a tiny little stomach. I wish you the best of luck and because of
what I feel is very bad advice from your doc and nut. I hope that you do
not become extremely ill and end up with other complications from having
your surgery because of lack of protein and fluids.
— bicngillette
October 17, 2008
I have never heard of anyone going straight to solid food after surgery. I
am 7 weeks out and I still can't get enough portein from food and if I get
enough food I don't get enough fluids. Be very careful doing it this way.
I hope that this works out for you....... My nut said that there are some
who will drink one protein drink a day after a year out.
— phyllismmay
October 17, 2008
I hear ya everyones Doctor is different. Mine says ibuprofen no problem,
others have said never to take again after surgery. Mine does not have me
drink milk of mag or any other stomach med every day as I heard the other
day someone say "OUR Drs said we would need to drink every day".
Mine says no problem small amounts of potatoes, learn to eat sm amounts to
get certain things your body needs. I see so many varies from other members
that they where told by their bariactric team Doc. etc. I try to do as my
doc, team says and have tried somethings that work for others. I hope
things work out for you best of luck Tammi
— Tammi Sandoval
October 17, 2008
I to want to wish you the best, I have not had surgery yet but will soon
and the one thing the Nut. and Dr. really are worried about is getting
enough fluid and protein. Please take care. Stacie
:0)
— sse032568
October 17, 2008
I've been going to support groups regularly since my surgery and have never
heard of this phenomenon. Good for you for asking them. I'm celebrating
my one year surgiversary soon and have NEVER thrown up, so it doesn't
happen to everyone, and hasn't happened to anyone I know of. That being
said, follow what your doctor said, but please don't assume that our
doctors are wrong. It sounds like it's just a different way. Mine brings
you along slowly to give the pouch time to heal. That's her way and what
she's found to work for her patients. I made the transition from liquids
to soft foods to regular foods with little to no problem.
— Shirley D.
October 17, 2008
My surgeon does it the way yours does and he also works with a
nutritionist...We ate food right from day one in the hospital and I rarely
had any involuntary vomiting either! ( 2-3 times over the last 5 years were
my own fault...eating too fast or too much or once when I got a tomato skin
stuck over my stoma) No protein drinks UNLESS we could not get enough
protein and we were only to use it in the first few months ...after that we
were to eat our protein in real foods...(Protein had to be high quality, no
soy and no added vits...plus it had to have 13 of the key amino acids or it
was not aproved by my nut) Kept my weight off almost 5 years now without
protein supps...Just because 100 people have the same instructions...does
not mean that two that have different ones are wrong or less likely to
work...Some of the BEST ideas come from people who think outside the box
and away from the masses. And most people will follow the "most
traveled" road to "feel" safer. That's where all the
traffic and crazy drivers are! LOL ...But to be honest though...I do drink
a protein drink now and not the high quality "whey only " my
surgeon wanted us to use if we did...I can't tolerate whey at all and only
a little whey isolate...so I do a high quality soy-whey isolate
mix...So...use your own discretion in these matters...
Don't trust those that say you "must always" and "never eat
this or that"...People who use the words "must never" and
"must always" are to convince the person that they don't think
will believe them because they KNOW what they are saying might not be 100%
true all of the time or they are only repeating what they are brainwashed
to believe by someone they trust. They are often two of the most convincing
lies ever used! But they are also used to stress importance that may not be
a perfect fit for everyone! There is no such thing as never and always
except one thing. Everything else there is no guarentee...People will
"always" die...and people will "never" live forever in
the same body. Those are the only times "never" and
"always" are 100 % TRUE! ...It's just a strong statement for
people who believe something at the moment...Not all rules are written in
stone...and those that are...are impossible for ALL to follow in an ever
changing world in motion. So don't worry! Do what you feel is the best
suggestion...I only drank isopure protein (first three months PO) when I
could not eat much or felt I was not getting proper protein (it's all I
could tolerate in little sips)...Otherwise I ate my food! Didn't feel
"great" when I ate...for a long time, but didn't vomit either...I
was lactose intolerant and didn't know for quite a while! Just wanted to
show you someone who had the same sugesstions, and different surgeon! It
worked for me almost 5 years now and still counting!
— .Anita R.
October 17, 2008
I drink protein shakes that I add fruit and milk to. I am also able to eat
all kinds of meats, vegtables and fruit. I have never had any problems.
They may be wrong! Lisa
— ldillabough
October 17, 2008
I'm 11 months post op and I still drink a protein drink almost everyday and
I have never gotten sick. Protein helps us burn fat and keep muscle, it's
very important for weight loss. It was several weeks after my surgery
before I was allowed solid food, I was on liquids and purees for several
weeks and I never got sick. I've lost almost 200 lbs in 11 months so I must
be doing something right. Good luck with your weight loss.
— DEBI R.
October 17, 2008
Essentially, each person needs to follow their doctors nutritional
prescription. There are apparently an abundance of ways that physicians
feel about this issue, and each one believes they are right. However, I
know I couldn't get anything down initially so without liquid protein I
would have been back in the hospital.
Linda
— glemlm
October 17, 2008
Dear Heidi, I can't add anything to what folks have already said but just
wondering - what kind of WLS surgery did you have? How are you doing? I
have also had energy level problems [lap band 5 wks. ago]. Take care
-Barbara W. [aka, Oakroom]
— oakroom
October 17, 2008
My Doctor told me I did not have to drink protein drinks, and if I wanted I
could have one a day because he said they make you gain weight.
— wvgirl54
October 17, 2008
Well let see, I have never heard of anyone throwing up just for drinking
protein. Yes, it is a must to have some protein w/ every meal however,
sometimes especially in the beginning you need that extra help. You should
get at least 55-65 grams protein each day. There are some lo cal, nf
protein supplements out there. or if you prefer the food, there are also
protein bars that are extremely low in sugar and no carbs. Remember you
dont absorb nutrients as you use too so more protein the better. I cannot
emphasize enough how important it is to take in your fluids. I ended up in
the hospital multiple times due to dehydration which required an iv and
potassium. Everybody takes food, types of food, drinks and supplements
differently after the surgery. Listen to your body and make sure you take
those supplements.
— tysweetpea
October 18, 2008
Everyone has there own doctor, and the doctors each have there own plan of
how they want to handle each individual case, your nut maybe doing this for
10years, and that maybe the plan that works for him, but in the protein
drinks you just don't get protein you also get your fluids in plus some
extra nutrition. So just keep in mind we all support each other, on going
thru the weight loss surgery, but each case and each doctor is different on
how they have there programs set up.
i had a girlfriend that went to a different doc then I did and her program
was different than mine. If you don't take the protein drinks thats fine,
but let everyone else follow there programs the way that they are told to
do. I don't think people will get sick because they are taking protein
drinks, I am almost 1 year post op rny, down -140llbs and am healthy and
had no probelms with drinking protein drinks, and still do everyday. Hope
this clears up your concern for others.
— lisa3959
October 18, 2008
Hi! I just wanted to put in my 2 cents...I am four months out and had my
first vomit earlier this week. I am now UP to 2 ounces 3 times a day
...with an ounce of meat being 7 grams of protein--give or a gram...there
is no way I could get in 60 g a day. Protein aids in healing and by using
the shake...you are helping your muscles to stay in tact. I would inquire
about this at support group --if you attend one. Your first four bites
should be of a high protein food and you are at a stage where if not on
liquids, you are consuming pureed food. 4-6 tablespoons at a meal. If you
chew the properly, wait the five munutes between bites , and don't drink
while eating..or the 30-60 mins after...you should not get sick. When I
just got sick, it was from chinese bbq beef and the sugar got me sick. I
chewed the food and spit out the meat...I just wanted the taste and look
where it got me! lol I am new to this, but I do know that your body will
break down the muscles to get the protein needed to heal. your stomach will
take a few weeks to heal. Forcing solid foods could cause a stitch/staple
to tear..I wouldn't risk it. leaking could lead to death from
peritinitis(sp), infections etc. Is ther eanother doctor you could ask
questions to? I would even follow up with my pcp if I had to.
Also --i was dehydrated for 3 weeks right out of the hospital ..It only
took 3 days for me dehydrate , as I was unable to get the 64 oz in. Once I
got all the gas out--the fourth day after surgery-- I could do it, but too
late. I didn't lose any weight and it took me 3 weeks to get rehydrated
drinking 80 ounces a day!! please listen to us on here!! we have been
there..you know this--you have seen the q&a section... I hope you find
this info useful, I will pray for you. God Bless, Kim
— gpcmist
October 18, 2008
sorry for the many type o's lol Kim
(give or take) etc
— gpcmist
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