Question:
Does anyone not dump.
I am 6 weeks post op and I have not dumped. I can eat about anything and still feel fine. I am wondering did the sugery take well. I have lost 30 lbs. So something is working, but I thought one of the reasons to have RYN was to scare you from certain foods. Just wondering — judgelee98 (posted on May 30, 2007)
May 30, 2007
Hi Sharon....everyone is different....my surgeon made it painfully clear
that about 30% of the people who have surgery do not have all "side
effects" of surgery - some will feel hungry, can eat anything w/o
dumping, etc. I know 3 people who are just this way. It's not uncommon. You
just have to work a bit harder to keep things away from your mouth - a
friend of mine - really watches what she eats and kicked up her exercising
and she is down 50+lbs. in 3 months. It sucks, because we all think we will
have this new tool and all of the "side effects" along with it.
But it not true for everyone. Just eat what you are supposed to; don't fall
back into old/bad eating habits. Make lifestyle changes and stick to them
and you will do fine. Good luck.
— jammerz
May 30, 2007
I have not dumped yet and I am 2 1/2 months out. But I have not put
anything in my mouth that is not allowed. I do not want to know if I don't
dump on sugar and fat. I want to believe that I will and just don't want
to chance it at least at this time.
I do know people that really dump hard on certain foods so it is true that
some of us will and others just don't.
— CarolynK
May 30, 2007
First and foremost, this is a TOOL only, not a cure all. YOU have to make
the decision to eat something or not. This surgery will not do everything
for you. (That's why some people are denied this surgery, they think it
will do everything for them). I have not dumped at all, however I am the
perfect patient, eating ONLY what my nutritionist has told me to eat.
Before surgery I had no willpower. Now, after I have a great deal. I am
like the previous poster, I don't want to find out what will make me dump
if anything at all, so I don't eat the things I'm not supposed to. The
only time I have to really fight my head hunger is when my menstral cycle
is getting close. But I fight it and know it will only get easier as each
day goes along. I am now a little over 2 months out. Good luck!
— crystalsno
May 30, 2007
Try eating a slice of pecan pie and THEN tell us you didn't dump. I found
out the hard way. Now I can't even eat my favorite pie anymore.
— MCraig3
May 30, 2007
Well means you are not eating anything over 5 grams of sugar -- I have
never dumped but did through one time because I ate too fast and didn't
chew my food enough and therefore the food got stuck --I only needed that
to happen once. Now I chew, chew, like no tomorrow. If you lost 30 lbs.
then the surgery took. I don't think having RNY is suppose to "scare
you" away from certain foods because after your initial year after the
surgery, people are able to eat whatever they could eat before the surgery
-- just not as much.
— the7thdean
May 30, 2007
I don't dump. I am 6 months post op and have never had dumping syndrome.
I am one of the cursed people that can eat sugar. I have chosen not to.
If I want a cookie or two I can eat them....but that's how I got that way
in the first place. I stay away from white bread, and most bread in
general. I am a carb-o-holic. I love those lovely carbs, the more of them
I eat the more of them I want to eat. So to fix this I don't eat them.
(breads and pasta's) I have eaten several candy bars maybe 4 or 5 since
surgery and I just don't dump. Everyone is different. I try and stay away
from processed sugar also, so now I have the tool, it's up to me to use it
wisely. Take care and good luck on your journey.
— Sheryl H.
May 30, 2007
WEll just cause you can eat something doesnt mean you should. don't tempt
the devil so to speak. I did not start with the whole dumping thing full
blown until about 6 mths out and then for some weird reason at 13 mths out
I dumped all the dang time. I am now about 5 years out and I still dump.
You will learn what makes you spew soon enough and believe me you will
learn from it. Good luck this is a wonderful journey and I wish you the
best of luck. Get everything from this surgery that it has to offer. You
have been given a new lease on life. Enjoy all the perks and benefit from
them.
— peggster
May 30, 2007
do be aware for unknown reasons a non dumper can become a dumper at any
time. ONCE I ate a single 25 cent brownie and dumped BIG TIME.
— bob-haller
May 30, 2007
I, too, have believed that I didn't dump, but now thinking back on it I was
ingesting about 6-7 grams of sugar at a time. I am 5 months out and have
never had a candy bar, but I did dump on about 15 jelly beans at Easter,
got real sweaty and stuff. Last night at Applebees I ate some salad and
then had about half of a piece of apple pie and PAID FOR IT... uggghh, I
will NEVER do that again! I'm glad though, because it makes me feel like I
have this little switch that goes "ok, enough!" and I like
feeling full because it makes me realize that the surgery did work (I've
lost 142 lbs in 5 months!) I take my protein shake every morning and
really pay attention to food labels now. Try not to "test" the
dumping thing... it's hard, I know. When I want something sweet (except
last night) I usually have a piece of licorice (not the best choice, mind
you) or I take 2 tblsp unsweeted powdered cocoa and put it in the blender
with 2 splenda, 1/2 cup nf milk, and about 6 fresh bing cherries with the
pits taken out and some ice and "pulse" it instead of blending
(less foamy and more of a "shake" texture) 1/2 tsp almond
extract and 1/2 tsp vanilla extract and YUMMY it tastes like chocolate
covered cherries usually I put a scoop or two of protein powder too. Best
of luck!!!
— airbear762000
May 30, 2007
I often wonder the same thing, but I was told only 50% of patients get
dumping syndrome. I have tried many different foods and drinks and have
never had dumping syndrome! Don't worry, it will still work!
— jlw0423
May 30, 2007
First, why are you testing at 6 weeks? You must focus on what the surgery
is designed to do and that is to be a tool to help you loose the weight you
need to.
I am two years out and don't dump, but you need to follow the advice of
your doctor on what you should and should NOT be eating. Be careful and
you don't want to stretch the pouch and make the tool non effective.
Good luck.
— WilsonCrimson
May 30, 2007
Hi Sharon: That's such a great question, and one that my support group has
been discussing at length recently, mostly because we are all 3+ years out
and can eat basically anything. Remember that "dumping" is not
just throwing up violently. It can also take the form of heart
palpitations or fatigue. At 4+ years post-op, I can tolerate anything
(yes, even pecan pie). However, as a result of my pushing that envelope, I
also gained back half the weight I lost in less than a year. I'm happy to
report that I am now "back to basics" (traded in sodas and carbs
for 3 protein shakes a day, exercising 4X week, LOTS of water, and
consistent attendance at my support group) and wouldn't ya know, the
weight's coming back off! What they don't tell you is that not everyone
dumps, and it IS possible to "eat around" your surgery and gain
back all (if not more) the weight you lost. I wish I hadn't had to test
that theory, but I did, and am happy to say I'm back to where I want to be.
So, just keep doing EXACTLY what we KNOW we're supposed to be doing, and
you should be just fine. Hope that helps, and all the best to you! Dawn
H. RNY 4/11/03 (296/204/shooting for 160!) :)
— momstah
May 31, 2007
Hi Sharon, thanks for writing. I rarely get dumping, and many people
don't, so it is not that unusual. The best success will come though from
not trying to make yourself dump. It is great that you have lost 30
pounds, but many men and women have lost hundreds of pounds only to regain
them later because they never taught themselves to not test the waters. It
is not how much can I eat? But It is finally time to eat right and do
right by my body, protein, water, exercise. I really encourage you to
enjoy this weight loss and celebrate by doing right by your body. Don't
test the waters with sugar products, but eat right and exercise with lots
of water. You will be glad 5 years from now when you are the one telling
your friends that it is possible to keep your weight off, even 5 years out.
I am only 3 years out, but I still plan to keep this weight off. You can
do it, this is why you had surgery, to have a great tool. Use that for the
best result. Take care, Patricia P.
— Patricia P
May 31, 2007
I didn't experience the dumping syndrome until AFTER I began eating
"regular" food, which was (I don't remember exactly now) a couple
of months or more post surgery. During that period, I stuck religiously to
the rules. Afterward, I was unsure of what I could tolerate and what not.
Believe me, you will almost certainly experience dumping when you start to
do this -- and the dumping will be a BLESSING instead of a scourge because
you won't like it. Avoiding those dumping sessions will help to keep you on
track with your eating. I am now 10-1/2 months post RNY surgery and I still
dump occasionally (maybe once/month) when I get lax (ususally it's eating
too much of a rich food). If YOU don't ever experience dumping in the
future and you find yourself exceeding the boundaries of sensible eating
(and gaining back lost weight), you'll need to find some other method to
remind you to get back on track. *** Note that "dumping" is not
"throwing up". Dumping is the name of the process that goes on in
your rearranged alimentary canal that causes you to throw up. Dumping is
the cause, throwing up is the effect.
— [Deactivated Member]
May 31, 2007
Most likely you've never ingested enough sugar at this point to make you
dump. And everyone has a different tolerance level to refined sugars; I
bet if you tried drinking a large ice cream frappe, you'd find out very
quickly that you *do* dump, but I wouldn't advise it! One thing I've
noticed through the years (5 years out, myself) is that a lot of bypass
patients really don't understand dumping and use the term interchangeably
with either vomiting (or having things get "stuck") or with
diarhhea. It's neither.
The reactions can be different each time, and you're never sure how much
sugar will trigger it, but dumping isn't vomiting; instead you might have
hot flashes or get chills, feel achy and tired, light headed or just zone
out for a little bit. It's more like a mini-flu that lasts no more than an
hour. Some people get heart palpitations and the whole experience feels
like an anxiety attack. Diarrhea can result, but not necessarily;
something like ice cream is more likely to cause that in my experience,
probably due to the combination of fats and sugar and because there's
nothing to be broken down so it hits the intestines really quickly.
I'm not nearly as likely to dump as some people but it still stops me from
overdoing sweets; even when your stomach and appetite are larger, you'll
find that it doesn't take much of anything sweet to give you that sickly
"I've overdone it" feeling that you probably only experienced
rarely as a pre-op.
A slice of cake can leave a sickly aftertaste with me that's just not worth
it!
— sandsonik
June 1, 2007
i dont dump at all. i cant eat anything myself. everyone is different. my
ant couldnt stomache anything me. i can. me
— yvettetas
June 1, 2007
My good friend, as well as his wife, both had WLS & neither of them
dump. He stopped losing after about 2 months (with about 150 lbs to go),
regained a lot of the 120 lbs he lost, and whatever weight she DID lose
came back with a vengance (and then some). I wouldn't have thought this was
possible, but I am witnessing it. I, myself, do dump when I over do it.
It's been 7 yrs, so I can pretty much tell where the line is, but I try to
just not push it. In the beginning, I was VERY sensitive, and found out
exactally it was that I wanted to avoid... Dumping kinda
"retrained" my brain, and I've lost the taste for most of the
food that will
— CharlieGirl
June 1, 2007
My good friend, as well as his wife, both had WLS & neither of them
dump. He stopped losing after about 2 months (with about 150 lbs to go),
regained a lot of the 120 lbs he lost, and whatever weight she DID lose
came back with a vengance (and then some). I wouldn't have thought this was
possible, but I am witnessing it. I, myself, do dump when I over do it.
It's been 7 yrs, so I can pretty much tell where the line is, but I try to
just not push it. In the beginning, I was VERY sensitive, and found out
exactally it was that I wanted to avoid... Dumping kinda
"retrained" my brain, and I've lost the taste for most of the
food that will make me sick... so, for me, it worked as planned. My point
is, don't push it!!! You CAN get yourself back to that place you were
before WLS...it IS possible. I hope you mean more to yourself than to go
back there!!!
— CharlieGirl
December 17, 2007
I eat too much sugar and KNOW this from my daily morning
"dumping"....it's amazing what can pass through our bodies! Be
thankful that you don't have this happening and be careful...the lbs. can
creep back too easily! :O(
— zoeysgrami
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