Question:
Having some panic attacks about removing my stomach
I've been reading more and more about complications of bariatric surgery and since talking to my husband (who all of a sudden woke up and realised that I am having the VSG done instead of the lap-band and now he's not 100% on board with me having my stomach cut and removed) I am concerned about the removal of the stomach affecting other organs. Has anyone had this surgery and any complications with removal of gall bladder or other organs or any additional complications?????? help!!!!!!!!!!! — catherineangel (posted on December 10, 2009)
December 10, 2009
YES!!!! Be very careful and make sure you understand the risks! Please
read my page. The gastric bypass has been a total nightmare for my husband
and he has almost died several times since February. As a matter of fact,
he just got out of the hospital today and he is on a feeding tube for 14
hours a day currently with NOTHING by mouth. Please read my page before
you do this and know that not everyone comes out of this surgery okay.
— help_my_hubby
December 10, 2009
If you have done any research at all, you would find the the Vertical
Sleeve Gastrectomy is NOT a gastric bypass. I had one over a year ago and
have lost over 100 pounds! I have had absolutely no ill effects from the
procedure, and most people never do. You are not having your stomach
removed, only trimmed. True, it is about 80 percent of the stomach that is
removed in this procedure, but the 20 percent that remains is a fully
functioning stomach, and NOT a pouch. The advantage to removing the 80
percent or so of the stomach that the surgeons take is that you lose most
of your hunger creating hormones, zones that are prone to cancer, and areas
of the stomach that are also prone to ulcers. Eventually, what remains
will expand some, so you will be able to eat more than you would right out
from surgery and will stop losing weight. How long this takes is
completely up to you. Follow your dietary guidelines and you should lose
all the weight that you want. Cheat, and you may find that your stomach is
again too large for you to lose more weight. The same can be said for ANY
of the other procedures. Generally, people do not have trouble with their
gall bladder with this procedure. If you are PRONE to gall bladder issues,
you may want to have your gall bladder removed at the same time of the
surgery because rapid weight loss can TRIGGER problems with the gall
bladder, but as I said before, most people who have the VSG do not have
this problem. Gall bladder removal is REQUIRED for the Duodenal Switch,
because many people who have had THAT surgical option have had issues with
their gall bladder due to very rapid weight loss. The only real issue you
may have to face with the VSG is what are known as "Strictures."
A stricture is when the stomach or intestine turns on itself. It is sort
of like when the old fashioned sausage makers use to make sausage using
intestines from animals. They would twist the intestine to make a link of
sausage after stuffing the intestine with meat. These strictures are just
that: twists in the intestine. They are QUITE rare, and usually the chance
of one occurring after the stomach expands slightly is very remote. It is
actually very uncommon even before the stomach expands, and these are
usually easily repaired by simply putting a fiber optic scope into the
intestine through the stomach and removing the twist by pushing the scope
through the stricture. The VSG is the SAFEST surgical option available to
us today. It has been performed for DECADES to remove ulcers and stomach
cancer, and VERY FEW people have died from it. You are MUCH more likely to
have problems from the LAP BAND than you are the VSG. I hope this helps.
— hubarlow
December 10, 2009
Please also know that not everyone has major complications either. And also
notice her husband had the rny not vsg. I had the vsg on June 17, 2009. I
have been very blessed with no complications and a weight loss of 107 lbs
so far. For me I feel like death was staring me n the face either way. I
was diabetic, had high blood pressure (taking 2 pills a day), high
cholesterol, depression, no energy yadda yadda, I could go on and on. I
knew in my heart that this was the choice for me and that God was looking
over me. Just be at peace with your decision. You will still have a
stomach, just a way smaller version =). It is kinda common to have your
gall bladder removed after gastric surgery, however I havent had any
problems. Good luck to you!!
— callen3640
December 10, 2009
Hugh had some great information but he is giving you a bit of bad
information. Hugh is wrong about what he says is the "REQUIRED"
removal of the gall bladder. In fact, my gall bladder was working at 11%
two years pre-operative but my surgeon decided to leave it in and now it
works fine, no issues. My surgeon has done hundreds of DS surgeries and
thousands of rny's.
You weigh over 400 lbs, how much more weight will it take for you to
realize you are going to die if you do not do something about it. Even if
you live a long life how healthy do you think it will be?
Let's say you live to be 80 or 90, healthy up until the day you die but
weigh over 400 lbs, how long do you think you will be able to hold your
weight up without assistance? You will end up using a walker, then in a
wheel chair and one of those scooters.
Here is a link to my page,
http://www.obesityhelp.com/member/jrbreckenridge/ I was 570 lbs Oct. 2008,
I lost 295 in exactly one year. I am now down 333 lbs, I weigh 237.
I pray that you take a good hard look at your current and future you and
pray about it, god doesn't steer us wrong. Just beware of Satan trying to
lead you stray!
GOOD LUCK & GOD BLESS- Jaime
— Jaime Breckenridge
December 11, 2009
I had the VSG done a little over a year ago. I have NEVER regreted it. It
has saved my life. I have lost 80 pounds so far, but would have lost much
more if I had not gone through a very self-destructive period, but now I am
back on track and losing very well. No complications here, but I have to
tell you I was pretty darned healthy to begin with. It took me a whole
year to prepare fot the surgery, and did everything I was told to do. I
lost 40 pounds before surgery and my diabetes and high blood pressure were
well controlled before surgery. My doctore had a battery of tests done on
me to be sure my heart and lungs and all major organs were functioning well
enough to go through the stress of surgery. You have to trust your surgeon
that he knows what your body can handle, and you have to follow his advice.
If you don't trust him, then you need to find another surgeon.
— cydthekid50
December 11, 2009
Hi. Some second thoughts before a major operation are normal. I had a DS
which involves removing most of the stomach. My surgeon routinely removes
the gall bladder because he finds such a large number of gall bladder
problems after DS that it saves wear and tear on both patient and surgeon
to remove it at the time of the DS. In my case, he found a HUGE gallstone
that would have started acting up soonist so he whipped that sucka out.
Your millage may vary.
The question here is- are these just normal pre any life changing event
jitters-or-have you done enough research on this proceedure and the
alternatives? I consulted with 3 surgeons before picking the one I wanted.
I have other health problems so I talked about it with all my other doctors
too. I am 5 feet 2 inches and was skating at close to 300 pounds when I
started researching the surgery. This gave me the BMI of a battleship.
When I went to the beach, Greenpeace tried to drag me back in the water. I
had a million of these jokes. The doctors said the DS gave the most weight
loss and the fastest weight loss for people as big as I was and was also
the hardest to sabatoge.
I am not trying to talk you into a DS.
The DS also has a high rate of complictions. The doctors and I discussed
that. I had some things going for me that pointed to a good chance of
survival. One was I had no previous abdominal surgery. No scars or
adhesions.
What I'm trying to say is, the night before I went into the hospital, I
felt I had done everything I could do or read or think to make sure that it
would be a success. I had picked out a good surgeon, I had prepared myself
the way he told me to, I had picked the proceedure that was best for me,
the rest was in the hands of fate.
Can you say that?
And fate is a b***h. My wound opened up post-op requiring hot and cold
running home health nurses for about 2 and 1/2 months. But this can happen
with any abdominal operation, it happened to a friend of mine who had a
hysterectomy.
Then I spent some time adjusting to the new small stomach. It didn't like
grease and it didn't like sweets any more. I loved sweets and grease. How
do you think I once got up to 316 pounds? Eating celery? I tried to eat
fried chicken and ice cream right after surgery. Lots of it. The result
was it came back up. Vomiting. Lets be real. There will be vomiting if
you don't play by the rules.
I am 10 months post surgery. I tell people I miss food like a bad
boyfriend. You ever have a bad boyfriend? No good, cheats on you, takes
your money, crashes your car, but you love him anyway? Well I haven't and
I never understood why other women put up with men like that? Now I have
some insight. Ben and Jerry and Jimmy Dean are my Bad Boyfriends. I eat
baked chicken and fruit Popsicles. Sometimes I take very small bites of
the old bad foods and see how they go down. By this time one bite won't
kill me. But the new stomach warns me- don't push it girl.
It also seems to me you have not shared your research with your husband.
Can you let him in on what you have read and have been talking to the
surgeon and support groups about? Has he ever been to the surgeons office
with you? My father went to the surgeons office with me once and that
helped getting him on board with my plans.
I hope this helps some. I may have rambled.
— lucyfur
December 11, 2009
Hi. Some second thoughts before a major operation are normal. I had a DS
which involves removing most of the stomach. My surgeon routinely removes
the gall bladder because he finds such a large number of gall bladder
problems after DS that it saves wear and tear on both patient and surgeon
to remove it at the time of the DS. In my case, he found a HUGE gallstone
that would have started acting up soonist so he whipped that sucka out.
Your millage may vary.
The question here is- are these just normal pre any life changing event
jitters-or-have you done enough research on this proceedure and the
alternatives? I consulted with 3 surgeons before picking the one I wanted.
I have other health problems so I talked about it with all my other doctors
too. I am 5 feet 2 inches and was skating at close to 300 pounds when I
started researching the surgery. This gave me the BMI of a battleship.
When I went to the beach, Greenpeace tried to drag me back in the water. I
had a million of these jokes. The doctors said the DS gave the most weight
loss and the fastest weight loss for people as big as I was and was also
the hardest to sabatoge.
I am not trying to talk you into a DS.
The DS also has a high rate of complictions. The doctors and I discussed
that. I had some things going for me that pointed to a good chance of
survival. One was I had no previous abdominal surgery. No scars or
adhesions.
What I'm trying to say is, the night before I went into the hospital, I
felt I had done everything I could do or read or think to make sure that it
would be a success. I had picked out a good surgeon, I had prepared myself
the way he told me to, I had picked the proceedure that was best for me,
the rest was in the hands of fate.
Can you say that?
And fate is a b***h. My wound opened up post-op requiring hot and cold
running home health nurses for about 2 and 1/2 months. But this can happen
with any abdominal operation, it happened to a friend of mine who had a
hysterectomy.
Then I spent some time adjusting to the new small stomach. It didn't like
grease and it didn't like sweets any more. I loved sweets and grease. How
do you think I once got up to 316 pounds? Eating celery? I tried to eat
fried chicken and ice cream right after surgery. Lots of it. The result
was it came back up. Vomiting. Lets be real. There will be vomiting if
you don't play by the rules.
I am 10 months post surgery. I tell people I miss food like a bad
boyfriend. You ever have a bad boyfriend? No good, cheats on you, takes
your money, crashes your car, but you love him anyway? Well I haven't and
I never understood why other women put up with men like that? Now I have
some insight. Ben and Jerry and Jimmy Dean are my Bad Boyfriends. I eat
baked chicken and fruit Popsicles. Sometimes I take very small bites of
the old bad foods and see how they go down. By this time one bite won't
kill me. But the new stomach warns me- don't push it girl.
It also seems to me you have not shared your research with your husband.
Can you let him in on what you have read and have been talking to the
surgeon and support groups about? Has he ever been to the surgeons office
with you? My father went to the surgeons office with me once and that
helped getting him on board with my plans.
I hope this helps some. I may have rambled.
— lucyfur
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