quick update on NUT and surgeon appt. disappointment in NUT

 so, my NUT and i dont see eye to eye.  she is very school marm-y, proper, and by-the-book.  i can not talk to her openly.

i got pretty discouraged by her lecture yesterday.  seems i'm doing everything wrong.  i'm not eating "just what is on the list" anymore, and that is a big no-no apparently.  i understand different nuts and surgeons have different plans, but if my belly feels better with an oz of cheese soup than vanilla pudding and nothing is going wrong when i try it, i feel like it would be an ok food for me?  no?  she asked what i had to eat the day before and when i read from my journal page, her head was in her hands.  she wants me to go back to the puddings and stuff (and baby food, with no explanation of WHAT KINDS of baby food!  i was trying to simulate my own, but pureeing my own, simple, foods, but no she wants commercial).  meanwhile, i was sick this week because of the mag citrate they had me take that didnt even work, and not the food i was eating.  slowly, pureed and chewed to it's fullest point, and only a few bites at a time for new foods.  none gave me any gagging or nausia that the protein shakes have, lol, but i'm still trying to find one that works for me

refried beans- even low fat- has too much fiber for my new belly.  ok, i can give her that for a reason.  but, no cottage cheese?  she didnt give me an answer on that one, or the cheese soup, which i THOUGHT would have been under the category of creamed soup.

she told me i was to get in 5 protein shakes BEFORE adding ANY OTHER liquid!  water?????  there is NO WAY i can do that!  

so, i'm eating wrong, and drinking wrong and setting myself up to fail.  thats what i got outa her schpeal.

at the surgeon appointment i get to feeling better about the work i've been doing.  my incisions are all healed, and all my questions were good ones and i am 'normal' and doing great!

so, thats where i stand.  she wants me to go back to the stage i am supposed to be on until wednesday and then start the next stage, and to follow the 'bible' word for word.  i can understand she wants to make sure i dont get ill.  i dont want to get ill, either, but i would think that by listening to my own body, i should be doing an ok job of it.  i'm reading a lot of what is on others plans, and what others eat during whatever stage they are on, and am amazed at the differences in plans!  why arent all the people on so-and-so's eating plan dropping dead???  very discouraged having found some things that work for me, and she doesnt give them a thought.  just a no because they arnt on the plan.  she was pretty heartless to me.

oh well, i'll survive this, too!

Screw her! Sorry. She has her head stuck up her...never mind. Commercial baby foods? Are you kidding me!?! Nothing wrong with cottage cheese or Greek yogurt with a little SF syrup or SF jam. Find one of those approved plans that matches your tastes and needs and follow that. Lemme see if I can find my surgeon's published plan for RNYrs. Stand by.

--gina

Link: www.alagsa.com/after_gb.html#3to5 It's a guide not a bible. It's not all or nothing. Hang tough.

 i know, gina!  i'm just amazed about the baby food!  i figured the cottage cheese would be ok, fat free and small curd is what i got.  it feels good and doesnt give me issues...

your surgeons plan seems doable to me!  thanks for sharing!  i just dont understand the differences at all.  i understand that there are different ideas, but to totally have cottage cheese off limits because it's "not on the list" is just ridiculous!  and that was her only reason!  she wouldnt explain to me the 'why's after i asked about refried beans.  sigh

thanks for the link.  i will be going slowly toward my goal with some other ideas on what i can try that may feel good to my new pouch.

Aw Jenny!  It is difficult when you are looking for guidance and get none.  I have seen SOOOO many people do the refried beans thing as well as cottage cheese.  This is bogus.....this is MY feeling....if it go does okay and is protein focused do it.  Pace yourself, limit carbs (watch it in soup) and go from there.  Look at what Gina sent you and then use your own HEAD to decide what works.  Just remember, fluids and protein are your goal.  I would encourage you to try ready to drink protein if the regular shakes are bothering you.  I loved the shakes presurgery but about 2-3 weeks post surgery I was struggling.  Protein coffee though went down fine as did the RTD shakes.....eas low carb is pretty inexpensive and easy to find....you can buy a 4 pack and therefore not waste too much money if you hate it. 

 

Hang in there!!!!!


~~~Jennifer

 thanks, jennifer!

 it IS so frustrating!  i come back here, though and i feel understood.  THAT'S what the nutritionist should be, i feel.  not like going to the head of the class to be graded and punished!  so intimidating!  i see her again in october, so may need to make up a fake journal entry or two, ROFLOL!

hubby, mark, found some BOOST for me today, and i was able to drink half at a time, but got the whole thing down, in a couple of hours.  thats not sounding too hopeful to me... i wasnt feeling well afterwards, either.  maybe drank the first bit too fast or something.  

it's a big mystery right now.  a roll on the dice for each food we try.  i'm reading some of the great blogs out there, and am anxiously awaiting the days when i can cook for myself.  and my kids again!  they are all grown up, and i USED to cook well, according to them.  i had a major trauma in life and stopped cooking for the family.  my middle son is here for a week, leave from the navy, and with his wife and kids who have stayed in town while he was on ship.  they are going to be stationed in san diego, where we live in massachusetts.  i told my son that the next time he comes, i will be cooking, and his eyes got SO big!  it was great!  now i have to get to that point, and be true to my word!

Sorry to tell you, but BOOST isn't recommended by any Bariatric program that I know of. Especially, with a RNY, you don' twant something with a lot of sugar. If you're not sure, get a list of recommended protein drinks from Vitalady. Getting fluids through protein drinks is okay. Your Nut was right about this. Drink water in between.

You are very early out. I wasn't cleared for pureed anything until 2 weeks, including refried beans. Maybe, it has something to do the fiber content of foods..

 oh, i forgot to say boost glucose control.  oops, there is a HUGE difference in the sugar content!  thanks for letting me clear that up, i dont want any unsuspecting person saying that it was "ok for their nut, why not mine"...  regular boost is way high in sugars, but not the glucose control.  i found that one in the diabetes section at walmart.

i think my nut mentioned the fiber content of the beans, but she didnt tell me when refried beans were in MY plan.  she is very by the book and wont change her views on anything.  if i were a nut, i would fit the plan to the needs of the individual.  if someone liked the taste of something, i would TRY to fit something to that in order to make this ordeal just a smidge easier for them.

 i understand i am going thru a healing of major surgery, but it doesnt have to be so 'cut and dry'.  she has no humor or really any real emotion to her it seems.  very formal, very strict, i felt very "uh-oh, going to the mean lady now", even before i went thru the surgery.

I'm so sorry you're having this experience with your NUT :-(

--gina

Jenny, what I do is add to the list what they want to see not what I really eat. And when they talk to me, I smile & nod my head, and then go my way, doing what fits me best which just happens to be the plan my husband used...vastly different from mine. But we had the same exact surgery.

My theory is what they don't know about us won't hurt us.

Liz

 lol, liz!  i cant get used to the idea of such different programs.  i dont understand HOW it is that they are so different...  at first i wondered about the different backgrounds of the surgeon/nut combo.  is it because of cultural or geographic ideals?  it's interesting/infuriating to me, lol.  it would be nice to have some sort of gathering and agreement when it comes to "good vs. bad" food at each stage of recovery!  there would be less confusion i would think!

i'm just SO worried about creating a problem.  but, i am going  VERY slowly with the foods.  new foods i basicly lick off the spoon at first and give it a little while before consuming maybe an oz at first.

i'm glad i'm not going bac****il october!