Effects of no vitamins
Vitalady posted this last year in response to a post from a lady concerned about another who was not taking her vitamins. I kept it because I feel it's such a succinct list of what can happen when you don't supplement correctly. As there have been several questions lately about vitamins, malabsorbtion and malnutrition, I thought it worth repeating.
Michele
Post Date: 7/31/08 12:07 pm
if she is not having about 12 vials of blood drawn every few months (not annually), her levels can drop invisibly. As many ppl say their "labs are fine", but they only have a cbc, and don't actually see them with their own eyes. among us long termers, "fine" is kind of a bitter joke for: no one every really looked; the right tests were not run; patient never saw them; and so on
It doesn't mean the right labs were run or that anyone ever did more than file them.
So, tell her to pick which of these functions she wants to keep and I'll tell her which tests to run, which vites to take, in what form. If she doesn't want any of these functions, she is "fine". BTW, many ppl have some sorta desire to run themselves into the ground to get attention from grown kids or distant spouses or parents, I know! I've seen it too many times to deny it. Their eyes literally glisten with excitement that they are near death but little susie is flying home from China tonight! they don't grasp that some of the damage cannot be undone.
vit A - eyes, night blindness is first, then skin issues, then lack of immune
vit B12 & B1 look alike, brain damage, neurpoathy, tingling, burning, inability to walk. severe damage is never undone and a wheelchair and no job are the future for letting it get too far
many other b vites act like this, but these two are a sure thing to crash
vit C accompanies iron, but alone, it's an antioxidant, so builds immune, can help with bruising
vit D is bones, joints, teeth, helps calcium absorb, fights cancer, helps ease symptonms of fibro and ms and the whole list of autoimmune. final step is osteomalacia = rickets, so soft bones
vit E is hair, skin, nails, capillary walls (so heart health) and for men, all male function, whi*****ludes urinary, prostate AND toys
iron- delivers blood and oxygen to cells. folate helps the cells stay healthy when there is enough iron in them, but without folate and iron, the cells collapse, first brain damage, then the heart attacks begin
calcium is more than bones and teeth. keeps the heart and other organs working. that's why not enough calcium intake makes the body take calcium from bones and teeth to deliver to the heart and lungs. prioritizing, when you run out, heart stops
zinc aids protein intake, as well as being a helper to many other nutrients. doesn't take a lot, but it does take some
protein is the foundation. you can build a 6000 room mansion with every bell and whistle but without the foundation, it all crumbles to dust. first is regain, lost of muscle, skin tone, hair, nails, teeth, sunken skin look. then the edema starts at ankles and moves up the body as the edema fills the cells that should contain protein
So, that's as simple as I can make it on a laptop. there is a specific type and dose of vitamins and minerals for each person. generically, you can build a program per surgery type, customized to fit YOU, but after that, you build to fit the labs of each person.
The A, D, E, iron,calcium all have to be speific and protein has to fit a criteria, B12 has to be delivered unswallowed and so on.
but mainly, the mega list of labs is your report card on how well your program is working or not for you.
Michelle
RNY, distal, 10/5/94
Michele
Post Date: 7/31/08 12:07 pm
if she is not having about 12 vials of blood drawn every few months (not annually), her levels can drop invisibly. As many ppl say their "labs are fine", but they only have a cbc, and don't actually see them with their own eyes. among us long termers, "fine" is kind of a bitter joke for: no one every really looked; the right tests were not run; patient never saw them; and so on
It doesn't mean the right labs were run or that anyone ever did more than file them.
So, tell her to pick which of these functions she wants to keep and I'll tell her which tests to run, which vites to take, in what form. If she doesn't want any of these functions, she is "fine". BTW, many ppl have some sorta desire to run themselves into the ground to get attention from grown kids or distant spouses or parents, I know! I've seen it too many times to deny it. Their eyes literally glisten with excitement that they are near death but little susie is flying home from China tonight! they don't grasp that some of the damage cannot be undone.
vit A - eyes, night blindness is first, then skin issues, then lack of immune
vit B12 & B1 look alike, brain damage, neurpoathy, tingling, burning, inability to walk. severe damage is never undone and a wheelchair and no job are the future for letting it get too far
many other b vites act like this, but these two are a sure thing to crash
vit C accompanies iron, but alone, it's an antioxidant, so builds immune, can help with bruising
vit D is bones, joints, teeth, helps calcium absorb, fights cancer, helps ease symptonms of fibro and ms and the whole list of autoimmune. final step is osteomalacia = rickets, so soft bones
vit E is hair, skin, nails, capillary walls (so heart health) and for men, all male function, whi*****ludes urinary, prostate AND toys
iron- delivers blood and oxygen to cells. folate helps the cells stay healthy when there is enough iron in them, but without folate and iron, the cells collapse, first brain damage, then the heart attacks begin
calcium is more than bones and teeth. keeps the heart and other organs working. that's why not enough calcium intake makes the body take calcium from bones and teeth to deliver to the heart and lungs. prioritizing, when you run out, heart stops
zinc aids protein intake, as well as being a helper to many other nutrients. doesn't take a lot, but it does take some
protein is the foundation. you can build a 6000 room mansion with every bell and whistle but without the foundation, it all crumbles to dust. first is regain, lost of muscle, skin tone, hair, nails, teeth, sunken skin look. then the edema starts at ankles and moves up the body as the edema fills the cells that should contain protein
So, that's as simple as I can make it on a laptop. there is a specific type and dose of vitamins and minerals for each person. generically, you can build a program per surgery type, customized to fit YOU, but after that, you build to fit the labs of each person.
The A, D, E, iron,calcium all have to be speific and protein has to fit a criteria, B12 has to be delivered unswallowed and so on.
but mainly, the mega list of labs is your report card on how well your program is working or not for you.
Michelle
RNY, distal, 10/5/94
TanyaF
on 12/11/08 12:35 am
on 12/11/08 12:35 am
I have noticed also that there seems to be a lot of questions about vitamins lately. This is great cause maybe it can make people realize how important they really are. What is scary though is that there are so many out there taking nothing.
There are posts about the physical ramifications of no vit's. I could give a list of my physical ailments. The problems that I was left with after my near death experience. But in all honesty they are nothing compared to the mental issues that I was left with. Or the mental anguish that my family had to endure as they were told that I may not live and that my body was shutting down.
Besides the wheelchair and walker that have been a part of my life my memory is shot. Not simple things like "oh where did I put that paper?" But more like "what paper?" Yes I am coherent and I can hold a conversation. Just dont ask me what we talked about 5 minutes later. I have to depend on others to handle most of my affairs. They handle all bills and appointments for my children and myself. Not only that but also the days that I lose with my children. I dont remember conversations with them. Take today..its my youngest daughters b-day..she is 10. Do you know how freaked I was to forget it? I have notes up to remind me to tell her happy b-day. Whats even more upsetting is that after she has her party..and I go to sleep..when I wake up the next morning I wont remember a lot of it. I probably wont even remember just how old she is or that of my other kids. I remember thier past b-days just not any new ones. I wont remeber thier faces or joy on christmas this year either or maybe any other year.
So--Yes there are post after post of what will happen to our bodies if we dot take our vitamins. But if those dont scare you enough to pop a few pills think about the emotional toll it will take on your family and friends.
There are posts about the physical ramifications of no vit's. I could give a list of my physical ailments. The problems that I was left with after my near death experience. But in all honesty they are nothing compared to the mental issues that I was left with. Or the mental anguish that my family had to endure as they were told that I may not live and that my body was shutting down.
Besides the wheelchair and walker that have been a part of my life my memory is shot. Not simple things like "oh where did I put that paper?" But more like "what paper?" Yes I am coherent and I can hold a conversation. Just dont ask me what we talked about 5 minutes later. I have to depend on others to handle most of my affairs. They handle all bills and appointments for my children and myself. Not only that but also the days that I lose with my children. I dont remember conversations with them. Take today..its my youngest daughters b-day..she is 10. Do you know how freaked I was to forget it? I have notes up to remind me to tell her happy b-day. Whats even more upsetting is that after she has her party..and I go to sleep..when I wake up the next morning I wont remember a lot of it. I probably wont even remember just how old she is or that of my other kids. I remember thier past b-days just not any new ones. I wont remeber thier faces or joy on christmas this year either or maybe any other year.
So--Yes there are post after post of what will happen to our bodies if we dot take our vitamins. But if those dont scare you enough to pop a few pills think about the emotional toll it will take on your family and friends.
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