Acid!!!

jennteel
on 11/6/08 6:36 am - Archie, MO
Okay I am a bit confused here.  Isn't it true we do not have acid in our pouches now?

I do not get heartburn unless I have forgotten to take my acid meds.  However last night before bed I started to not feel so good.  I went to bed and had just started to drift off when I caughed and all the fluid that came up was fire burning acid!  I choked bad, flew out of bed, and right into the bathroom.  It was horrid!  I brushed teeth, rinced, ate a sugar free candy and nothing helped.  I then had to eat a popcycle to stop the burning.  Thought for sure I was going to be taking a trip to the ER.  I fell back to sleep and woke like nothing ever happened. 

Is this normal?  What would cause this?  And do I need to tell my dr about it?  he is 3 hours away so hoping not lol.
Jan C.
on 11/6/08 7:17 am - Cedar Creek, MO

first off let me tell you how cute you are looking. wow.

second in answer to your quest ion  i dont know. ...maybe you ate something that caused it,, i think i would call if i did it again. did you eat or drink right before you went to bed? are you having any other pains or anything different

if it happened again i would for sure call your surgeon.

ive done that before i had surgery at times  but not since surgery. ...good to see you on the board again. ive missed you...where have you been



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jennteel
on 11/6/08 8:07 am - Archie, MO
Awe thanks Jan!  I actually had a few sugar free shortbread cookies before I went to bed.  And I kinda felt like I regretted eating them after I did.  Just didn't feel right.  I just worry about getting an ulcer.  But thanks fro replying.  I have been around just not much in here.  Just been so busy.  baby turned 1 and teething the big back teeth now and learning to manipulate me and throw fits.  not sleeping.  Not taking naps.  My Avon sales have been high due to the holidays coming up.  had a tooth pulled.  My oldest is graduating this year so we been getting that stuff together.  My middle kid well nothing about him to report lol.  Oh and got a membership for the family for a year at the community center over here with a complete gym and pool which I been trying to go everyday or every other day.
PoohBear821
on 11/6/08 10:15 am - linneus, MO
Hey there long time no see. Not sure what happened with you,But tonight i had so much gas built up felt like i was haveing a heartattack,took gasx x4 still no relief actually made it worse so i took 2 preacids and some rolaids not sure if they area a no no,But was willing to try anything.I too have acid indegestion which freaks me out since we are not suppose to have acid.So don't know what is going on with us..I can not hardly belch let alone fart and my bms have been liquid.It is starting to scare me that i might have a blockage, I am so bloated i look 12 months pregnant.Dunno whats going on,I have taken 2 full doses of M.O.M one yesterday one today but nothing but a small amount of liquid diareah, It really suxs i am in alot of abdoninal pain and severe chestpain.Starting to wonder if i have a blockage,Kinda scarey Sure is glad to see you back i have missed you,If it gets worse for you please call the clinic or bariatric fellow on call. Number at hosp is 573-882-4141 ask for bariatric fellow on call. Don't wait fot it to get worse we shouldnt be haveing acid reflux. let me know what u find out.and come visit us more. right now for 2 days i have very bad pain in my lower left side and my tummy is sore to touch, i took gasx tonight and only made it worse it moved into my chest, i called columbia yesterday because i also lok 12 months pg. of course their solution was come to columbia for a ct , but im not driving 2 miles down spend the whole freakin day then drive home,when i could go to er in kirksville and they could call columbia to see what to do,then send the films over the computer for them to look at.but lord forbid if they make it easy for us. so hopefully it stops its making me think i might have a twisted bowl or something. but enough of me. i hope you find out whats going, please just call the hosp talk to bariatric fellow on call see what he says ,the number is 573-882-4141 and ask for the bariatic fellow on call maybe he would have a suggestion. let me know ok. i rad something about acid reflux on mb yesterday i think someone had the same symptoms as you,but can't find the post.
love and hugs deb

 




susyalba
on 11/6/08 1:39 pm - Overland Park, KS
do you still have your appendix???? it almost sounds like that. Also miss preach "go to the ER"  YOU NEED TO GET YOURSELF TO THE DR.  really your symptoms sound like they could be serious, a twisted bowel  would need to be dealt with NOW!! PLEASE LET US KNOW!!

 
 

        
jennteel
on 11/6/08 7:57 pm - Archie, MO
Yes I still have my appendix (sp?)

Hey Deb when is out next apt and what time?  I lost my card.  or I ate it, one of the two! 

Well it is 6 am and I gotta go to bed.  been up all night researching online jobs.  ughghgh I hate it too!
Jeanine S.
on 11/6/08 8:56 pm - compton, AR
Good to see you Miss Jennteel!! I hope everything is still going well and you don't get that again, didn't sound fun at all!! HUGS You look AMAZING btw!!! You were already very pretty but hot mama now!!!


Miss Deb (pooh) You are scaring me PLEASE go see a doctor, that sounds bad!!! We all love you hun, PLEASE PLEASE take care of you!!! Your family needs you and hey who else would I ever meet that loves Christmas and Santa the way I do again LOL!! GO TO THE DOCTOR!!!
HUGS love you!!!


HUGS!!!

Jeanine

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PoohBear821
on 11/6/08 9:13 pm - linneus, MO
Jen our next appt is the 21st at @ 8 am  why they make em so early with so many of us so far away is beyond me. LOL Hope to see you there.
Love Deb

 




jennteel
on 11/7/08 4:17 am - Archie, MO


Thanks Jeanine!  So 11 more days!  How is the liquid diet going?  As for the acid I think it mighta just been a random thing.  i tried to duplicate it again last night by eating a few of them sugar free cookies again and nothing.  I really wanted to see if it was a food.  it might be those exact cookies.  I did not get the acid up but they sure don't feel right in my pouch lol. 

Deb, i am sick and tired of having to get up at 4 friggen am for these apt.  Honestly the only reason I really go at this point is to see you, Ang, and the rest of the gang.  To talk to all of you and compare progress and setbacks.  Not to mention I do get a sitter overnight for the 1yr old.  yep he turned one last Sunday!  Hey I am going to make another post about something I got in the mail, so keep your eyes peeled.

PoohBear821
on 11/7/08 11:33 am - linneus, MO
Jen i found this not sure itwill help but sending it to you anyways LOL

Causes

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Illustration showing pyloric valve at the juncture of the stomach and duodenum Pyloric valve
Illustration showing relaxed esophageal sphincter allowing acid and bile to reflux into the esophagus How heartburn occurs

Bile is a greenish-yellow fluid that's essential for digesting and absorbing fats and for eliminating worn-out red blood cells and certain toxins from your body. It's produced in your liver and stored in your gallbladder in a highly concentrated form. Eating a meal that contains even a modest amount of fat signals your gallbladder to release bile, which flows through two small tubes (cystic duct and common bile duct) into the upper part of your small intestine (duodenum).

At the same time, food enters your small intestine through the pyloric valve, a heavy ring of muscle that sits at the outlet of your stomach. Ordinarily, the pyloric valve opens just slightly — enough to release about an eighth of an ounce (about 3.5 milliliters) of liquefied food at a time, but not enough to allow digestive juices to flow back (reflux) into the stomach. In many cases of bile reflux, the valve doesn't close properly, and bile backwashes into the stomach, where it causes irritation and inflammation (gastritis).

Surgical complication
Most damage to the pyloric valve occurs as a complication of gastric surgery, including total removal of the stomach (gastrectomy) and gastric bypass operations for weight loss.

Other causes
Other causes of bile reflux include:

  • Peptic ulcer. Sometimes a peptic ulcer can obstruct the pyloric valve. Rather than not closing tightly, the valve doesn't open enough to allow the stomach to empty as quickly as it should. The stagnant food and liquid can lead to increased gastric pressure that causes the refluxed bile and stomach acid to back up into the esophagus.
  • Gallbladder surgery (cholecystectomy). People who have had their gallbladders removed have significantly more bile reflux than do people who haven't had this surgery.

Reflux into the esophagus
Bile and stomach acid reflux into the esophagus when another muscular valve, the lower esophageal sphincter, malfunctions. The lower esophageal sphincter separates the esophagus and stomach. Normally, it opens only to allow food to pass into the stomach and then closes tightly. But if the valve relaxes abnormally or weakens, stomach acid and bile can wash back into the esophagus, causing heartburn and ongoing inflammation that may lead to serious complications.

 

Symptoms

Bile reflux can be difficult to distinguish from acid reflux — the signs and symptoms are similar, and the two conditions may occur at the same time. But unlike acid reflux, bile reflux inflames the stomach, often causing a gnawing or burning pain in the upper abdomen. Other bile reflux symptoms include:

  • Frequent heartburn — a burning sensation in your chest that sometimes spreads to your throat along with a sour taste in your mouth
  • Nausea
  • Vomiting bile
  • Occasionally, a cough or hoarseness Unintended weight loss


Lifestyle and home remedies

Unlike acid reflux, which can be caused or aggravated by eating certain foods and by smoking, obesity and excess alcohol consumption, bile reflux seems unrelated to lifestyle factors. But because many people experience both acid reflux and bile reflux, making some lifestyle changes may help relieve your symptoms:

  • Stop smoking. When it comes to acid reflux, smoking is a double threat: It increases the production of stomach acid, and it dries up saliva, which normally helps protect the esophagus.
  • Eat smaller meals. Eating smaller, more frequent meals reduces pressure on the lower esophageal sphincter, helping to prevent the valve from opening at the wrong time.
  • Stay upright after eating. After a meal, waiting at least two to three hours before taking a nap or going to bed allows time for your stomach to empty.
  • Limit fatty foods. High-fat meals relax the lower esophageal sphincter and slow the rate at which food leaves your stomach.
  • Avoid problem foods and beverages. Although the same foods don't trouble everyone, the worst offenders for most people include caffeinated and carbonated drinks, chocolate, citrus foods and juices, vinegar-based dressings, onions, spicy foods, and mint because they increase the production of stomach acid and may relax the lower esophageal sphincter. Unfortunately, if your lower esophageal sphincter is severely weakened, you're likely to have acid reflux no matter what you eat or drink.
  • Limit or avoid alcohol. Drinking alcohol relaxes the lower esophageal sphincter and irritates the esophagus.
  • Lose excess weight. Heartburn and acid regurgitation are more likely to occur when excess weight puts added pressure on your stomach.
  • Raise your bed. Raise the head of your bed by about six inches. The incline may help prevent reflux symptoms. You can either sleep on a wedge or elevate the head of your bed with blocks. Pillows usually aren't an effective way to elevate your upper body while sleeping.
  • Relax. When you're under stress, digestion slows, which may worsen reflux symptoms. Relaxation techniques such as deep breathing, meditation or yoga may help.
     

 




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